Guest dabe Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Powerful CM. He's not a defensive mid - he can't tackle very well at all. His best bet is to body and muscle someone off the ball by getting into the 1 v 1 duel and standing his opponent up. Any time he tries to go for a clean tackle he's usually beaten or, worse, putting in a U-14 slide tackle. So any midfielders that don't go to ground and just body people off the ball. Dembele for instance is great at it. I wonder if anyone has given him any pointers to try and do that more often, and put himself in position to do so. I wonder if anyone has told him anything remotely useful since he came in. When he looked his best earlier in the season, he was getting himself in front of the man and bodying' the man off the ball. It should be simple for any coach to see. A guy with that much strength and pace, should never be going to ground - he should be winning these battles by using his ridiculous upper body strength (who did he shoulder earlier this season? That bounced right off him?) and getting possession of the ball and BREAKING forward at pace. He's a box to box CM next to a physical holding midfielder every day of the week. He played great for Toulousse b/c he had Capoue doing all the dirty work for him. He should do very well with Tiote doing a similar role for him. Spot on analysis this. Also, clearly Pardew hasn't recognised his strengths/weaknesses or at the least isn't telling him which to utilise/remove from his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I thought it was Shola who destroyed Ridgewell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I thought it was Shola who destroyed Ridgewell. Think it was Samuel L. Jackson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Powerful CM. He's not a defensive mid - he can't tackle very well at all. His best bet is to body and muscle someone off the ball by getting into the 1 v 1 duel and standing his opponent up. Any time he tries to go for a clean tackle he's usually beaten or, worse, putting in a U-14 slide tackle. So any midfielders that don't go to ground and just body people off the ball. Dembele for instance is great at it. I wonder if anyone has given him any pointers to try and do that more often, and put himself in position to do so. I wonder if anyone has told him anything remotely useful since he came in. When he looked his best earlier in the season, he was getting himself in front of the man and bodying' the man off the ball. It should be simple for any coach to see. A guy with that much strength and pace, should never be going to ground - he should be winning these battles by using his ridiculous upper body strength (who did he shoulder earlier this season? That bounced right off him?) and getting possession of the ball and BREAKING forward at pace. He's a box to box CM next to a physical holding midfielder every day of the week. He played great for Toulousse b/c he had Capoue doing all the dirty work for him. He should do very well with Tiote doing a similar role for him. I know that Pardew is the devil but Sissoko should know how to use his body already, he has brains. The player has to carry some responsibility too, the tackle he tried was disgraceful and I won't blame Pardew for that. He should be good next to Tiote, just wish he could control the ball consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 He's a powerfull DM capable of winning a lot of duels WHUT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I thought he was one of best performers . His final ball and decision making were dubious at times but against a 5 man midfield he put in a really big shift. He was f**king s**** His end product maybe but he has a rare ability of turning defence into attack. He wasn't helped by the fact he was carrying Anita who is useless in a 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I thought he was one of best performers . His final ball and decision making were dubious at times but against a 5 man midfield he put in a really big shift. He was f**king s**** His end product maybe but he has a rare ability of turning defence into attack. He wasn't helped by the fact he was carrying Anita who is useless in a 442. Surely that isn't a problem. http://lakers.topbuzz.com/modules/PNphpBB2/upload-pics/lakers/8851_ThunderdomeMasterBlaster_1.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 If we play a 3 man midfield, and we want Anita in there - then you need Anita - Tiote - Sissoko in a flat 3. or with Tiote dropping deepest. None of this #10 role for Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 If we play a 3 man midfield, and we want Anita in there - then you need Anita - Tiote - Sissoko in a flat 3. or with Tiote dropping deepest. None of this #10 role for Sissoko. The creativity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That's the thing, there's none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm not saying for 1 second that is the ideal midfield for me. I'm still a firm believer that Tiote has to play now that Cabaye is gone to have any bit of bite in the middle of the park and we need a creative player in the middle. The best we have is Sylvain and he's permabenched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Tiote & Sissoko will play regardless of form or anything with Pardew as manager. Tbh I've been most impressed with Sissoko outwide but he's not as bad in the middle (not at AM) as people make out. But he and Tiote and Anita is not wavey at all for a midfield trio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. 4-4-2, FFS, how many more games do you need to see at the moment to know that is suicidal for us at the moment. 4-3-3. Get De Jong down the middle, Remy and Ben Arfa either side. But no you go with Pardew's utterly wank shit choice that saw us lose 0-3 to Sunderland and 0-4 to Tottenham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. Go and see a doctor man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Laughing and smiling while talking with Tottenham players in the centre circle after he'd just captained NUFC to pathetic a 0 - 4 home defeat didn't go down well with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Laughing and smiling while talking with Tottenham players in the centre circle after he'd just captained NUFC to pathetic a 0 - 4 home defeat didn't go down well with me. Me neither, always hard to see players doing that. It doesn't happen quite a lot though, all over the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. 4-4-2, FFS, how many more games do you need to see at the moment to know that is suicidal for us at the moment. 4-3-3. Get De Jong down the middle, Remy and Ben Arfa either side. But no you go with Pardew's utterly wank shit choice that saw us lose 0-3 to Sunderland and 0-4 to Tottenham. The only way our personnel makes sense is with a midfield 3. No combination we have available works in a two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Vs Villa. Anita Tiote Sissoko Ben Arfa Gouffran Remy. Simple as that. You've got most of Pardew's old favourites in there, while playing everyone in positions they are comfortable with. Hell switch Gouff and Remy if you want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. 4-4-2, FFS, how many more games do you need to see at the moment to know that is suicidal for us at the moment. 4-3-3. Get De Jong down the middle, Remy and Ben Arfa either side. But no you go with Pardew's utterly wank shit choice that saw us lose 0-3 to Sunderland and 0-4 to Tottenham. The only way our personnel makes sense is with a midfield 3. No combination we have available works in a two. Yep, unfortunately our manager, unweirdly Brett and some others think going 4-4-2 is sensible. Fuck a duck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Laughing and smiling while talking with Tottenham players in the centre circle after he'd just captained NUFC to pathetic a 0 - 4 home defeat didn't go down well with me. Me neither, always hard to see players doing that. It doesn't happen quite a lot though, all over the world. Landmines happen all over the world, Ian. You're supporting children being blown up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Laughing and smiling while talking with Tottenham players in the centre circle after he'd just captained NUFC to pathetic a 0 - 4 home defeat didn't go down well with me. Me neither, always hard to see players doing that. It doesn't happen quite a lot though, all over the world. Landmines happen all over the world, Ian. You're supporting children being blown up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Loves a long range shitty daisy cutter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thought he worked his ass off today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Anita's been poor imo for a while now. I'd drop him against Villa and stick with 4-4-2 with Tiote Sissoko in the middle. 4-4-2, FFS, how many more games do you need to see at the moment to know that is suicidal for us at the moment. 4-3-3. Get De Jong down the middle, Remy and Ben Arfa either side. But no you go with Pardew's utterly wank shit choice that saw us lose 0-3 to Sunderland and 0-4 to Tottenham. The only way our personnel makes sense is with a midfield 3. No combination we have available works in a two. And we can all see it, yet Pardew just can't. It shows what he really wants to play is a direct 4-4-2, and i hope the hell they don't let him choose players to but as that'll be the shit we see, even worse than now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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