ATB Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would definitely go; Tiote Cabaye Ben Arfa Sissoko Gouffran Cissè Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I can't see Pardew not starting Tiote. It could be a midlfield 3 of Sissoko, Tiote & Cabaye, with Ben Arfa and Gouffran roaming behind Cisse. Could even be Ben Arfa as a 10 behind Cisse & Gouffran. This. Fluidity, interchangeable and flexible. Keep Cissé central. Let Hatem do whatever he pleases and have Gouffran moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I keep whingeing about the way we've got the players for Ancelotti's system don't I, but I can't help it Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon Cabaye Sissoko Tiote Ben Arfa Gouffran Cisse Let our two best players be the reference points for everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would definitely go; Tiote Cabaye Ben Arfa Sissoko Gouffran Cissè It's the only way I can see it working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 On form I would play Anita over Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Tiote looked great when he came on last weekend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I keep whingeing about the way we've got the players for Ancelotti's system don't I, but I can't help it Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon Cabaye Sissoko Tiote Ben Arfa Gouffran Cisse Let our two best players be the reference points for everything If we played that i'd have Anita over Tiote. This season i'd have Anita over Tiote in every position tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Tiote would thrive in that system. He'd be playing the Gattuso role, charging about covering a large amount of space and munching people to take pressure off Cabaye and protect the fullbacks, then staying back to conserve his energy and cover while the fullbacks bomb on. It puts a lot of emphasis on his strengths and almost completely absolves him from having to expose his weaknesses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I like this formation , Ben Arfa in the hole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Any lack of width concerns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Any lack of width concerns? Pardew attempting to implement that springs out as the major concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Krul Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Santon Cabaye Tiote Sissoko Ben Arfa Gouffran Cisse Our strongest possible line-up imo Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Gouffran all interchanging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The strangest formation we played was the 4-3-3 under Keegan. It worked so well though! Geremi. Butt. Barton Owen Martins. Viduka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Any lack of width concerns? I know! You could plant flowers on our left with that set up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The strangest formation we played was the 4-3-3 under Keegan. It worked so well though! Geremi. Butt. Barton Owen Martins. Viduka It worked well because of who the manager was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The strangest formation we played was the 4-3-3 under Keegan. It worked so well though! Geremi. Butt. Barton Owen Martins. Viduka Most formations will work when the manager knows how to implement it. Keegan had us playing good football then and beat Spurs away with it as well. The players seemed to know there role and we were a lot more effective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The strangest formation we played was the 4-3-3 under Keegan. It worked so well though! Geremi. Butt. Barton Owen Martins. Viduka Most formations will work when the manager knows how to implement it. Keegan had us playing good football then and beat Spurs away with it as well. The players seemed to know there role and we were a lot more effective I think Keegan just gave them confidence as individuals and as a team, and it paid off. Playing Owen deep was quite brilliant though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The strangest formation we played was the 4-3-3 under Keegan. It worked so well though! Geremi. Butt. Barton Owen Martins. Viduka Most formations will work when the manager knows how to implement it. Keegan had us playing good football then and beat Spurs away with it as well. The players seemed to know there role and we were a lot more effective I think Keegan just gave them confidence as individuals and as a team, and it paid off. Playing Owen deep was quite brilliant though. Agree, it was a masterstroke to drop Owen back, looked a different player. strange no one else persisted with this like. He had lost the pace to get behind teams but had enough about him to sit behind forwards for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 It was perfect in the fact that Martins pace meant the opposition defense sat deeper, Viduka was a brilliant target man and often drew two defenders, allowing Owen to ghost in to the box and finish, which for the most part was his only strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Any lack of width concerns? Not remotely. In Ancelotti's diamond (or at least the idealised, symmetrical version of it), the fullbacks are wingers. The presence of a holding (or at least a very conservative) midfielder on both sides means they can and should bomb on constantly. Remember Ashley Cole under Ancelotti at Chelsea? Insanely advanced. It's a bit more nuanced than that though. Ancelotti explains it in terms of there being three players who can control the width of the game on each side. The strikers pull wide, the outer midfielders can also drift out, and obviously there's the wing-backs (which is what they are really). Each side's personnel is different of course, so the average Ancelotti diamond tends to be a bit lop-sided. Ours would probably end up with Debuchy attacking more than Santon and therefore having the more conservative centre mid (Tiote) on his side of the pitch, while the striker who pulled wide more often (Gouffran) would be over on Santon's side. So you might end up with: Colo Mbiwa Santon Debuchy Cabaye Tiote Sissoko Ben Arfa Gouffran Cisse ah you get the idea Think Ancelotti's league-winning Chelsea side early in that season (they went more 4-3-2-1 / 4-3-3 later on). Anelka pulled wide to the right more, while Ashley Cole on the left was slightly more advanced than Bosingwa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I was surprised Owen didn't look at permanently changing his position on the back of that goalscoring run from the hole and I reckon he dropped a massive bollock when he didn't. Didn't need his pace, just the other attributes which he still had in spades: ability to anticipate, get in front of defenders, time his runs and finish. It even turned out he was awesome at linking up play in the first phase of the attack too. I was a 4-3-1-2 bore even back then and I remember thinking he could've done that job for England, in behind Rooney and whoever, ahead of someone like Carrick as playmaker with Gerrard and Lampard either side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Owen barely thinks about football, never mind what position he should convert himself to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/d7cB7A9.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Think he'd be better if he came deeper to collect the ball - Yaya style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Think he'd be better if he came deeper to collect the ball - Yaya style. Yaya is better further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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