Kanj Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 it's a German marketing term. Far from being a brand new concept or tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's interesting that from the descriptions of it in this thread the example that sprung right to mind was Guardiolas Barcelona, which is referenced in that article, yet during the entire period they won everything doing it I never once heard it referred to as Gegenpressing. His first CL winning side most definitely. With Gegenpressing, I don't think those teams ended up with possession into the high 60's and 70's. The focus is making very quick attacks once you've won the ball. That would lead to losing the ball and the whole sha-bang restarting. In Guardiola's later sides possession would be used as a defensive tool a lot and the quick play would come in bursts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I would've gotten the same reaction had I said "counter pressing". Let's keep it real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Not a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a 5 second press when you lose possession. The whole team closes down, if the ball isn't won, you fall back into your defensive blocks. But that doesn't sound as arrogantly sophisticated as gegenpress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a 5 second press when you lose possession. The whole team closes down, if the ball isn't won, you fall back into your defensive blocks. But that doesn't sound as arrogantly sophisticated as gegenpress. exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Does the degenerationxpress utilize double shuttlers? I can't stop laughing at this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Does the degenerationxpress utilize double shuttlers? I can't stop laughing at this. Triple H and Shawn Michaels running the shuttler play transitions and utilising the degenerationxpress counter the counter movement to overcome the frail and ageing Xabi Alonso they join hands and take him out with a double clothesline before shuttling out to the wing and sticking it in the back of the net. Chyna gets her cock out in appreciation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a 5 second press when you lose possession. The whole team closes down, if the ball isn't won, you fall back into your defensive blocks. But that doesn't sound as arrogantly sophisticated as gegenpress. Maybe it's just quicker to say gegenpress. I'm not really understanding the reaction to TCD on this one. Unless it's an accumulation of things that maybe have got on peoples tits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a 5 second press when you lose possession. The whole team closes down, if the ball isn't won, you fall back into your defensive blocks. But that doesn't sound as arrogantly sophisticated as gegenpress. Maybe it's just quicker to say gegenpress. I'm not really understanding the reaction to TCD on this one. Unless it's an accumulation of things that maybe have got on peoples tits. It's his nepolastic resozzleation of crantinary sordilangs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a perfectly cromulent word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's just a word used by people that want to embiggen their ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's interesting that from the descriptions of it in this thread the example that sprung right to mind was Guardiolas Barcelona, which is referenced in that article, yet during the entire period they won everything doing it I never once heard it referred to as Gegenpressing. Think it's been described that way of Dortmund. I'm guessing it's a German word. I think gegen means against or anti. Think I've seen it used on posters in Germany saying 'gegen Nazis'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Does the degenerationxpress utilize double shuttlers? I can't stop laughing at this. Triple H and Shawn Michaels running the shuttler play transitions and utilising the degenerationxpress counter the counter movement to overcome the frail and ageing Xabi Alonso they join hands and take him out with a double clothesline before shuttling out to the wing and sticking it in the back of the net. Chyna gets her cock out in appreciation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's interesting that from the descriptions of it in this thread the example that sprung right to mind was Guardiolas Barcelona, which is referenced in that article, yet during the entire period they won everything doing it I never once heard it referred to as Gegenpressing. Think it's been described that way of Dortmund. I'm guessing it's a German word. I think gegen means against or anti. Think I've seen it used on posters in Germany saying 'gegen Nazis'. Yes, taken literally it means 'against' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 "gegenpressing" FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 He's gegenpressing neebody with all this lark like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sissoko's game is all about the transition. Win the ball in midfield or attacking, get the ball to Moussa within 2-3 seconds while the other team is trying to get into position he will cause trouble. Sissoko could do a good job for any type of "gegenpressing" or counter attacking team. I fear SMC's style of play is the antithesis of Sissoko's. We'll look to have possession for possessions sake (hence Brothers Sideways in midfield). You strike me as the kind of guy who serves guests their food on slates which 30mins before dinner were on your roof keeping you dry. Obviously you drink out of jam jars and you sleep in a hammock above your unused double bed. I bet that ponytailed fella with the small hat is you. Has to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's interesting that from the descriptions of it in this thread the example that sprung right to mind was Guardiolas Barcelona, which is referenced in that article, yet during the entire period they won everything doing it I never once heard it referred to as Gegenpressing. Think it's been described that way of Dortmund. I'm guessing it's a German word. I think gegen means against or anti. Think I've seen it used on posters in Germany saying 'gegen Nazis'. Yes, taken literally it means 'against' I'm gegen this bloody thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 'Gegenpressing' sounds like some inhumanly cruel thing the Germans did in Eastern Europe in the first half of the 1940s. "18 August 1941: Sonderkommando S15 carried out gegenpressing operations in the Lvov area today" etc. I appreciate it's a hipster football term and probably the sort of thing Jonathon Wilson shouts when he comes (into his own mouth), but if anyone ever used the term whilst talking to me about football, I'd immediately shed my pacifist credentials and kick them as hard as I could in the face. (No offence to original poster, obvs). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 in tears at gegenpressing fuck off man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 You're all miserable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 You're all miserable. Don't you mean gegenhappy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Gegenfrowning here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Is gegengegen basically a self cancelling time/space void? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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