Massadio Haïdara (now playing for Brest)

[Guest Slippery Sam]

The FA's disgraceful inaction is them admitting that their methods of adjudicating football matches is not fit for purpose. The only reason they will not 're-referee' this incident or sign up to the re-refereeing protocol is because of the flood of 'check this out, check this out' clamours which would come from football clubs after games; basically the FA don't have the manpower to do it or couldn't be arsed.  Therefore, if we all rightly recognise that there would be a flood of 'check this out, check this out' by football clubs, it actually means that the FA KNOW that the current system of one ref, two linesmen/women and one 4th official is insufficient and they are not prepared to do anything about it.

 

Surprising [Not] to hear John Barnes on Talksport last night saying McManaman did nothing wrong in the challenge.

 

Callum McManaman.  Callous McManimal.

[cp40]

Doubt he will come out to contradict his chairman's comments. In the same way I don't think there will be any official apology.

 

Martinez will probably rest him for a few matches since the attention is on his player atm and those are crucial games (cup SFs, relegation headers) ahead. Hope the thug gets all the abuse he deserves if he does step into the pitch. Fans of the other clubs will surely look to milk the heat in those games. Just imagine Millwall fans hurling abuse to unsettle him.

 

He will have to live with the curse of being unpunished for a long time.

 

 

that will be worse tham simply taking his punishment, It will follow him his whole career, whereas it would have been done and dusted in three games.

[LRD]

Doubt he will come out to contradict his chairman's comments. In the same way I don't think there will be any official apology.

 

Martinez will probably rest him for a few matches since the attention is on his player atm and those are crucial games (cup SFs, relegation headers) ahead. Hope the thug gets all the abuse he deserves if he does step into the pitch. Fans of the other clubs will surely look to milk the heat in those games. Just imagine Millwall fans hurling abuse to unsettle him.

 

He will have to live with the curse of being unpunished for a long time.

 

 

that will be worse tham simply taking his punishment, It will follow him his whole career, whereas it would have been done and dusted in three games.

 

He could find himself in a worse scenario if reports of him being mentally-weak are true. Whelan has dug an even deeper grave for him with those provocative (and petty anti-Ashley) remarks when he could have done much better. That senile old fool isn't helping his player.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Douglas says he will play this season apparently, thankfully isnt as bad as it could have been then.

[cp40]

If Wigan go down I dont expect to see them again, If not, I cant see this being forgotten, in fact it should be bumpted to fuck and a special atmosphere should greet them at SJP next season. I doubt tyhat player can play here for a very long time.

[Benwell Lad]

Daft question but has this little thug came out publically to show a shred of remorse or sorrow for the tackle?

 

No.  Why should he ? Any show of remorse would merely be an orchestrated publicity stunt now, designed for his own benefit.

Anyone with half a brain knows that he intended the tackle and went out to do Haidara, so any apology would have a very hollow ring to it.

What may help him from a PR point of view would be a face transplant to make him look less like David off Coronation Street - undoubtedly one of the ugliest and most punchable faces on the planet.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Daft question but has this little thug came out publically to show a shred of remorse or sorrow for the tackle?

 

No.  Why should he ? Any show of remorse would merely be an orchestrated publicity stunt now, designed for his own benefit.

Anyone with half a brain knows that he intended the tackle and went out to do Haidara so any apology would have a very hollow ring to it.

What may help him from a PR point of view would be a face transplant to make him look less like David off Coronation Street - undoubtedly one of the ugliest and most punchable faces on the planet.

 

PR or not its the right thing to do to stand up like a man and say 'yes i was a thug and regret my actions, i am sorry to the player for what i did'

 

If only Martinez did some PR of his own and left him out for three games but thats never going to happen

[Ishmael]

Douglas says he will play this season apparently, thankfully isnt as bad as it could have been then.

 

God, I hope he's right.

[LRD]

I do think Martinez will leave him out for the next 3 matches against Norwich, QPR and Millwall. He will melt under the intense pressure.

 

Will be ironic if he leaves him out though. Might as well take the 3 match ban and be done with.

[madras]

hope carver has a right go at the panel and goes on record as to what was said.

[BlueStar]

The FA's excuse in their interview on the BBC implies they don't have much faith in referees, doesn't it?  They don't want 're-refereeing' because if that happens then they think officials won't make important calls because they think they can do it retrospectively anyway.

[Incognito]

The FA fuck us over time after time. You'd think they have some sort of agenda against us. We aren't playing on a level playing field for sure. Perhaps the Owen compo still sticks in their throats.

[cp40]

The FA fuck us over time after time.They have some sort of agenda against us. We aren't playing on a level playing field for sure. Perhaps the Owen compo still sticks in their throats.

[Crumpy Gunt]

The FA fuck us over time after time. You'd think they have some sort of agenda against us. We aren't playing on a level playing field for sure. Perhaps the Owen compo still sticks in their throats.

 

Say it loud enough and you'll eventually believe it.

[madras]

The FA f*** us over time after time. You'd think they have some sort of agenda against us. We aren't playing on a level playing field for sure. Perhaps the Owen compo still sticks in their throats.

 

Say it loud enough and you'll eventually believe it.

there is a bias, not necessarily against us alone though. can't help thinking had that tackle been on gerrard,lampard, giggs,bale ot tevez then the whole thing would've been handled differently.

[Wilson]

The FA f*** us over time after time. You'd think they have some sort of agenda against us. We aren't playing on a level playing field for sure. Perhaps the Owen compo still sticks in their throats.

 

Say it loud enough and you'll eventually believe it.

there is a bias, not necessarily against us alone though. can't help thinking had that tackle been on gerrard,lampard, giggs,bale ot tevez then the whole thing would've been handled differently.

 

There's no doubt about it.  Say it was Barton/Tiote on Rooney/Gerrard there would have been a massive uproar.

[BlueStar]

Someone on facebook arguing that they can't 're-referee' games because then every freekick, off-side etc would be disputed and results would only be provisional.  As noted in that poll article

 

They overturn red cards that their disciplinary panel decide are incorrect.

 

How is that not re-refereeing a game?  When red cards are recinded, does that mean they have to replay the last 20 minutes of the game or whatever with 11 men a side?  Of course not.

[Crumpy Gunt]

As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC.

 

Who seriously gives a fuck if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't.

 

We need to focus anger on the match officials. They fucked up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing shit 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO FUCK.

 

The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. 

 

[Wilson]

As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC.

 

Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't.

 

We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***.

 

The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. 

 

As I said yesterday, maybe it doesn't help us but I'm sure Haidara lay up somewhere with his leg in a brace fairly f***ing p*ssed off that he's basically been swept under the carpet.  He's been on the wrong end of a career threatening challenge and faces a lengthy spell out when the cunt who done it get's to go and play in the cup etc.  Moment has passed, what a load of shit.

 

Regardless whether it helps NUFC or not something should have been done about it, it's a f***ing disgrace.

[GeordieDazzler]

Paul Parker on Eurosport...

 

Callum McManaman's tackle on Massadio Haidara was probably the worst tackle I have witnessed in the game. And I've seen a few bad ones being a defender. I could not believe what I was watching on Sunday evening.

 

Was it malicious? Did he mean it? Only he can tell us. If he is honest enough, he might just come out say what was in his head. It was a thuggish and cowardly act.

 

What he is guilty of is absolutely awful, and it seems a joke that he is going to get away game's authorities.

 

You can't even say it was over the top. It went beyond over the top. It is all well and good saying he clipped a piece of the ball, but it was the damage and the force of the challenge that is the problem.

 

The lad might have serious ligament damage around his knee area. That is more serious than a break sometimes because players just can't get over it.

 

They can't do the same things and can be drastically affected by it. It changes your running style and walking style. It then affects other muscles and tendons. In theory, it could be a huge problem for the Newcastle lad in years to come.

 

McManaman's tackle is the worst kind of challenge you could see. I'm really surprised that the Wigan chairman Dave Whelan came out and said what he said. Sometimes it is better not to say anything.

 

The Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has kept quiet, but Whelan has said too much. There is no defence for what McManaman did and all Whelan has done is put himself and his club in a bad light.

 

Some are saying he was immature, that it was his full Premier League debut etc. Well, I've seen a lot of debuts, but I haven't seen a challenge like that.

 

If that was a tackle in a match on a public park on a Sunday morning, you would see the biggest fight and brawl of your life between players. If somebody put a challenge in like that on somebody's team-mate in an amateur match, there would have been a war.

 

McManaman would also have had to come off the pitch a lot sooner than he did in an amateur match because somebody would have tried to hurt him.

 

You can't condone a tackle like that at any level of football. You can't condone the Newcastle assistant manager John Carver for approaching McManaman at half-time, but you can understand his behaviour.

 

Haidara had just come on as a substitute and is trying to make a name for himself in a much improved Newcastle side. 13 minutes later he has to be carried off by something that is more like GBH than a tackle.

 

I heard today he made a horror tackle against Manchester City under-21s. That suggests there is history/

 

The manager said he is wanting to apologise, but I'd be very surprised if Haidara is interested in an apology.

 

If he is lying there in a hospital bed with his leg up, the last thing he wants is to see that tackle again. I know I don't want to watch it again. I got a chill through my body when it went in, because I have had knee problems.

 

Haidara didn't expect the sole of a size eight boot coming at him with brute force on his standing leg. The referee Mark Halsey and the linesmen must also be reprimanded for their performance.

 

Like McManaman, he needs a lengthy period out of the game to reflect and think about where he is going wrong, but it now looks like nothing is going to happen.

[BottledDog]

Paul Parker on Eurosport...

 

Callum McManaman's tackle on Massadio Haidara was probably the worst tackle I have witnessed in the game. And I've seen a few bad ones being a defender. I could not believe what I was watching on Sunday evening.

 

Was it malicious? Did he mean it? Only he can tell us. If he is honest enough, he might just come out say what was in his head. It was a thuggish and cowardly act.

 

What he is guilty of is absolutely awful, and it seems a joke that he is going to get away game's authorities.

 

You can't even say it was over the top. It went beyond over the top. It is all well and good saying he clipped a piece of the ball, but it was the damage and the force of the challenge that is the problem.

 

The lad might have serious ligament damage around his knee area. That is more serious than a break sometimes because players just can't get over it.

 

They can't do the same things and can be drastically affected by it. It changes your running style and walking style. It then affects other muscles and tendons. In theory, it could be a huge problem for the Newcastle lad in years to come.

 

McManaman's tackle is the worst kind of challenge you could see. I'm really surprised that the Wigan chairman Dave Whelan came out and said what he said. Sometimes it is better not to say anything.

 

The Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has kept quiet, but Whelan has said too much. There is no defence for what McManaman did and all Whelan has done is put himself and his club in a bad light.

 

Some are saying he was immature, that it was his full Premier League debut etc. Well, I've seen a lot of debuts, but I haven't seen a challenge like that.

 

If that was a tackle in a match on a public park on a Sunday morning, you would see the biggest fight and brawl of your life between players. If somebody put a challenge in like that on somebody's team-mate in an amateur match, there would have been a war.

 

McManaman would also have had to come off the pitch a lot sooner than he did in an amateur match because somebody would have tried to hurt him.

 

You can't condone a tackle like that at any level of football. You can't condone the Newcastle assistant manager John Carver for approaching McManaman at half-time, but you can understand his behaviour.

 

Haidara had just come on as a substitute and is trying to make a name for himself in a much improved Newcastle side. 13 minutes later he has to be carried off by something that is more like GBH than a tackle.

 

I heard today he made a horror tackle against Manchester City under-21s. That suggests there is history/

 

The manager said he is wanting to apologise, but I'd be very surprised if Haidara is interested in an apology.

 

If he is lying there in a hospital bed with his leg up, the last thing he wants is to see that tackle again. I know I don't want to watch it again. I got a chill through my body when it went in, because I have had knee problems.

 

Haidara didn't expect the sole of a size eight boot coming at him with brute force on his standing leg. The referee Mark Halsey and the linesmen must also be reprimanded for their performance.

 

Like McManaman, he needs a lengthy period out of the game to reflect and think about where he is going wrong, but it now looks like nothing is going to happen.

 

Fucking bang on.

[Pokerprince2004]

I wonder what will happen if Mcmanaman does another player in one of wigans next 3 games. It would cause even more mass outrage as he should have been banned. It will look even more terrible on the FA  and also could cause more legal proceedings to occur. What a mess it couldbecome simply because the FA cant do anything because a linesman seen 'some of the tackle'

[Dokko]

Tiote doing this to Bale; bet things would be different then.

[Wilson]

Are you being deliberately contrary?

 

Think he does tbh, got a bite off me anyway

[Skeletor]

@Phil_Thompson4: The disciplinary panel who let off Callum Mcmanaman need to be disciplined and the lino needs a 3 game ban