Incognito Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). I agree though defensively naive at times. He's still young though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). Literally can't remember one thing he's done going forward. Usually gets to the byline and does a shit cross. Even his athleticism which was his major strong point could be weakened after all these injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). Literally can't remember one thing he's done going forward. Usually gets to the byline and does a shit cross. Even his athleticism which was his major strong point could be weakened after all these injuries In the match against Stoke a couple of seasons ago where they had two players sent off, he was given licence to maraud forward more and was winging in some lovely crosses. I think a good coach who could sort his role out could make a good full back out of him. But like I said, given his injuries I'm not sure we'll bother with him too much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 His crosses end up hitting the first defender 9/10 times. When it doesn't it's mostly a poor cross without adress. Just because he is quick some people think he is good offensively which he is not. His technique and ball handling is average at best. He handles the ball as if it is a handgrenade at times. He is extremely raw and I just don't think he has enough natural talent to make it a success here. Might be "ok" for this league at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. the college papout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Look at the comments from here after the last game he started, against Watford the start of last season. It's a simple case of "player getting better the longer he goes without playing" if anyone here really rates him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Before his leg break he was probably our best LB, after that, he's been naff defensively and decent enough going forward. If you combine him and Dummett, you'd a distinctively average full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. the college papout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Before his leg break he was probably our best LB, after that, he's been naff defensively and decent enough going forward. If you combine him and Dummett, you'd a distinctively average full back. You combine the two and you get Davide Santon. You combine all three and you get Alessandro Pistone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. Yet you praised Dummett for having the exact same attributes? Dummett is a good defender. He knows how to defend with his mind. He generally makes the right decisions. He's generally where he's meant to be positionally. Rarely too tight. Rarely too wide. Has good concentration. Strong in the air. He's just always thinking about danger and how to stop it. Much like Aaron Hughes, he's probably not considered a CB for us due to a perceived lack of strength but he thinks like a proper defender. He's rarely responsible for cheap goals. He's rarely sleeping at the back post. But yes he's pap going forward and on the ball. And he's not a great athlete, lacks agility. Haidara on the other hand does not know how to defend. He's still learning the position. He gets caught napping when the ball is on the other side. He's in the wrong positions a fair bit. That would be fine if he was any good going forward but he's not. The vast majority of his crosses don't beat the man blocking it. He also often does the Dummett aimless chip upfield. Overall football skills Dummett-esque with better athleticism without knowing how to defend or the aerial prowess. Davide Santon - a decent footballer. Good touch. Passing and movement okay. Produced the square root of eff all in the final third and couldn't defend. The amount of goals conceded with him and Colo on that left side not caring at all about their responsibilities was shameful. Masters of pap. Santon couldn't even be bothered to run back into position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If Rafa can't make a decent LB out of this lad, nobody can but my money is on him emerging as a genuine LB competitor by Christmas....he has genuine attacking ability with the ability to cross on the run with his left foot, but defensive side needs lots of work If I'm wrong, he'll be on his bike during the Jan window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He'll be off soon anyway. Dummett's exactly Rafa's type of defender and character. Can't see him losing that position with the exception of the odd rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He'll be off soon anyway. Dummett's exactly Rafa's type of defender and character. Can't see him losing that position with the exception of the odd rotation. He did just sign Yedlin and Lazaar, not of the Dummett ilk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I've barely seen owt of either of them so I can't comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. Yet you praised Dummett for having the exact same attributes? Dummett is a good defender. He knows how to defend with his mind. He generally makes the right decisions. He's generally where he's meant to be positionally. Rarely too tight. Rarely too wide. Has good concentration. Strong in the air. He's just always thinking about danger and how to stop it. Much like Aaron Hughes, he's probably not considered a CB for us due to a perceived lack of strength but he thinks like a proper defender. He's rarely responsible for cheap goals. He's rarely sleeping at the back post. But yes he's pap going forward and on the ball. And he's not a great athlete, lacks agility. Haidara on the other hand does not know how to defend. He's still learning the position. He gets caught napping when the ball is on the other side. He's in the wrong positions a fair bit. That would be fine if he was any good going forward but he's not. The vast majority of his crosses don't beat the man blocking it. He also often does the Dummett aimless chip upfield. Overall football skills Dummett-esque with better athleticism without knowing how to defend or the aerial prowess. Davide Santon - a decent footballer. Good touch. Passing and movement okay. Produced the square root of eff all in the final third and couldn't defend. The amount of goals conceded with him and Colo on that left side not caring at all about their responsibilities was shameful. Masters of pap. Santon couldn't even be bothered to run back into position. This is s**** like. He's very prone to getting far too tight and being rinsed as it takes him a year to turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 You talk shit too, though. Far too often, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Can't actually remember if this kid is any good or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 the usage of the word pap by dropout is fucking terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 the usage of the word pap by dropout is fucking terrible. Pap is like a porridge they cook in Africa. Maybe TCD was force fed it as a kid and ended up with a severe dislike of it. I was like that with rice pudding at school it made me want to puke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 the usage of the word pap by dropout is fucking terrible. Pap is like a porridge they cook in Africa. Maybe TCD was force fed it as a kid and ended up with a severe dislike of it. I was like that with rice pudding at school it made me want to puke. Semolina for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 the usage of the word pap by dropout is fucking terrible. Pap is like a porridge they cook in Africa. Maybe TCD was force fed it as a kid and ended up with a severe dislike of it. I was like that with rice pudding at school it made me want to puke. Semolina for me like Ugh. That was some slimy shit as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Bump. Thought he was great when he came on yesterday, aggressive in the challenge and good going forward (missed chance aside). Shame that he's been permanently injured for the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Didn't really matter as we were always winning, but the goal would have been nice for him after all that time out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 He looked rusty at first and grew into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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