The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 It wasn't even a shambles. He kept trying and kept going. Quality was just not there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think you misunderstand me. The result and team performance was a shambles, but because he didn't get many touches and was 'hauled off' early (copyright RTG 2011), he took a lot of the blame for the team and the general poorness of display. I remember that game well and we were set up horribly. Cisse was more isolated than the front bit of Steve's barnet and our most attacking player was Janmaat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He got caught dawdling on the ball a lot, and I can remember it was driving McClaren nuts on the bench. But I think you can give a player new to English football some benefit of the doubt, it's happened with other foreign players who have adapted well after a shaky start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He's got quality, but if he has the mentality/willingness to succed here (or elsewhere) and fulfill his potential is a different thing. I'm prepared to give him time and hopefully he'll adapt and come good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He's got quality, but if he has the mentality/willingness to succed here (or elsewhere) and fulfill his potential is a different thing. I'm prepared to give him time and hopefully he'll adapt and come good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He'll be a totally different player in a successful team with a decent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He's got quality, but if he has the mentality/willingness to succed here (or elsewhere) and fulfill his potential is a different thing. I'm prepared to give him time and hopefully he'll adapt and come good That was the doubt for me, whether he really wanted to be here, but apparently the coaching staff seem pleased enough with his application and he's being given a chance to stake his claim this season. I hope that's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/21/23/2B8C694200000578-0-image-a-7_1440195814001.jpg Was he wearing the contract when he signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think he was heavily scapegoated for the West Ham (a) shambles. Before that he looked good against Northampton (lol), Man U as a sub and played an odd false 9 role when Mitrovic got sent off vs Arsenal early doors. Admittedly he was so, SO poor in the Sheffield Wed defeat that he deserved dropping for a bit. But he simply never got another chance despite our permanently s*** form. Completely agree with this. And when he was thrown up front when we were down to 10 in the Arsenal (H) game he ran his bollocks off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Didn't see the cup game where he was booed by the fans but in any of the games I did see it was his quality rather than his effort which let him down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/21/23/2B8C694200000578-0-image-a-7_1440195814001.jpg Was he wearing the contract when he signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lack of confidence makes you worse in pretty much every aspect of your game no matter how good/bad you are. Same goes when it comes to playing under pressure if you're not good at handling it I think he got thrown in too early, and in a shamble of a team as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Got thrown into the team that was getting beaten in preseason on baseball fields and shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thought we'd got ourselves a gem after I watched him destroy Northampton. Hope if he does stay he can get some much needed confidence playing in hopefully a winning team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lack of confidence makes you worse in pretty much every aspect of your game no matter how good/bad you are. Same goes when it comes to playing under pressure if you're not good at handling it I think he got thrown in too early, and in a shamble of a team as well. I would imagine his role would be a lot clearer in a Rafa team as well. Rafa knows how to use space and Thauvin would probably get to operate in areas where he would be a lot more effective under him than under McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "Lazio have reached an agreement with Newcastle United for the signature of French winger Florian Thauvin, according to Italian daily Corriere dello Sport. It has been claimed that the Serie A giants have agreed to pay a loan fee of €2m for Thauvin, and are obligated to make the move permanent at a later date for €11m." I know they are far from reliable but i thought i'd post it anyway. Probably BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Much rather he stayed but that's relegation for you I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Best he's away imo, too much water under the bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 We really really need a couple of attacking midfielders / wingers if he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 What's Wayne Routledge up to these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Figured he was away by how little Rafa has been using him in preseason. Hatem mIII was a dud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 We really really need a couple of attacking midfielders / wingers if he leaves. This: we are very short on creativity; this is the one aspect that still worries me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I'm not fussed either way. Looks like we were only prepared to sell him if we got our money back, and it's yet more evidence that we are not prepared to panic in the transfer market any more. No player leaves except on our terms. Love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Bummer, if he goes, because I still wanted (hoped) he'd come good and was a big fan of his in France. However, that's a hell of a fee all-things considered given his past 12 months+. I hope we sign some exciting attackers now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's more difficult to sign players now compared to a few weeks ago. People want even crazier money now. Fingers crossed that we can get the ones we want in soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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