mighty__mag Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Obligation to buy would suggest he's a goner, as even if it's a 'play a certain number of games' clause he's been first choice for them. Can't remember who reported the obligation part mind. NUFC reported it Have they made it permanent already though? I thought after so many games he was their's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 He's obviously not coming back. He never wanted to come in the first place so it's better if he stays with Marseille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/florian-thauvin-im-not-coming-12771824.amp Apparently plays 3 games and it triggers the clause, and we get what we paid for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/florian-thauvin-im-not-coming-12771824.amp Apparently plays 3 games and it triggers the clause, and we get what we paid for him Shame, the fee was previously agreed. Think with his form and their new owner we could had got more for him amazingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked for this debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Still shocked we sent all these fools out on loan with appearance obligations to buy. On this form he's worth double I'm sure what the agreed fee was set for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked for this debacle. Seems pretty innocuous given we've managed to get him out and get our money back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked for this debacle. Seems pretty innocuous given we've managed to get him out and get our money back. To me, it is the epitome of his signings and shows his methods are floored. A player who is obviously very talented but just cannot adapt his game to the Premier League - same as Cabella. That should have came across if the scouting was good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked for this debacle. Seems pretty innocuous given we've managed to get him out and get our money back. we got our money back? says nothing of the sort in the article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I haven't read it, someone just said we get what we paid for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked? Give over man! His job is to find quality players. Thauvin has got obvious quality. It hasn't worked out for him here because he didn't want to play for us and we threw money at him to get him here. Unsurpsingly he's showing his quality in an environment he wants to be in. The transfer has been a disaster for a number of reasons but you certainly can't blame the scout for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I haven't read it, someone just said we get what we paid for him. Which is incorrect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked? Give over man! His job is to find quality players. Thauvin has got obvious quality. It hasn't worked out for him here because he didn't want to play for us and we threw money at him to get him here. Unsurpsingly he's showing his quality in an environment he wants to be in. The transfer has been a disaster for a number of reasons but you certainly can't blame the scout for that. Yes you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The defence people give Carr is terrible. He's one of the big reasons we got relegated, signed players for his own personal good imo, look at how many players went through the same agency in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr should be sacked? Give over man! His job is to find quality players. Thauvin has got obvious quality. It hasn't worked out for him here because he didn't want to play for us and we threw money at him to get him here. Unsurpsingly he's showing his quality in an environment he wants to be in. The transfer has been a disaster for a number of reasons but you certainly can't blame the scout for that. Yes you can. Of course he's to blame. It was his job (given to him by the owner) to find players who are going to look good enough to increase their value. He clearly wasn't suited to this league or our style of play, so we shouldn't have been anywhere near him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I haven't read it, someone just said we get what we paid for him. Which is incorrect. I stand corrected. Bloody fan information. Who decided to go mental chasing and paying Thauvin loads of money when he clearly didn't want to come? If that's Carr then he should take the blame obviously. But it wasn't bad scouting to identify Thauvin as a talented player necessarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I'm don't think Carr is immune from blame - the Cabella and Rivière transfers were dreadful. Mark Douglas on twitter is talking about the Thauvin transfer to a few fans - Taylor&Besty etc - they're basically saying good player - it didn't work out for here and it's a shame. I don't get why more people don't have this perspective. There isn't a witch hunt to be had for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The defence people give Carr is terrible. He's one of the big reasons we got relegated, signed players for his own personal good imo, look at how many players went through the same agency in France. There is a lot of truth in the agency links being questionable, no doubt. But overall I think there are only a couple of players who have been genuinely useless, most either just couldn't handle coming into such a toxic situation or were jettisoned without a fair chance by shit managers. I don't have any agenda to defend Carr BTW, couldn't care less about the guy. I just think most of the players have been decent given his remit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Surely part the scout's remit is to not only identify talent, but whether the player would be keen to join the club at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/marseille-set-pay-seven-figure-12773287 £5m plus wages we've lost on this lad. Great work to all involved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Surely part the scout's remit is to not only identify talent, but whether the player would be keen to join the club at all? Yep, fair point. Like I said above, if Carr forced the issue then he should take the blame. It's another one of these debates I can't believe I got involved in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr recommended McClaren. Instant sack-able offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Carr recommended McClaren. Instant sack-able offence. Can't argue with that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Didn't want to be here. Played like it. Forget him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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