The College Dropout Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 When your manager is Pardew followed by Carver and then McClaren, its a tough environment for any player to perform even the better ones. He was never managed by the first 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 When your manager is Pardew followed by Carver and then McClaren, its a tough environment for any player to perform even the better ones. I'm not having that. Players have to be responsible for their own performances, honestly some people will blame the manager for everything. The prevailing culture of shit management and acceptance of mediocrity should not be forgotten like. Over 4-5 years the pattern of failing players points to an issue with management to me tbh. Obviously the fact that Carr wasn't getting players that suited the manager was a very poor state of affairs but perhaps his remit wasn't too do that exactly. Lots of hyperbole and bullshit levelled at Carr imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 This lad with all his talent and baggage didn't fancy playing for us, still signed a contract and instantly wanted to get out of town. You compound that type of player who doesn't want to play for us now under the management of training ground genius, Steve McClaren, and our spineless weak ass p*ss team gets steamrolled down to promotion. Like a perfect fire storm of trash - Ashley, Charnley, Carr, McClaren and players who didn't want to be here, weren't good enough, or were talented and used us as stepping stones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 This lad with all his talent and baggage didn't fancy playing for us, still signed a contract and instantly wanted to get out of town. You compound that type of player who doesn't want to play for us now under the management of training ground genius, Steve McClaren, and our spineless weak ass p*ss team gets steamrolled down to promotion. Like a perfect fire storm of trash - Ashley, Charnley, Carr, McClaren and players who didn't want to be here, weren't good enough, or were talented and used us as stepping stones. Aye, a good manager or indeed good culture around the club might have been enough to see him want to succeed and play for us. We had the exact opposite of that type of culture for ages. The lad was chased by us and took the move when he didn't really want it, we did nothing to make things appealing so to speak, quite the opposite in fact. I liked some things I saw in him and would have preferred he stay. Alas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 From .com Thauvin confirms permanent move Any lingering uncertainty over the contractual status of Florian Thauvin looks to have been cleared up by interviews the midfielder has given in recent days. On a season-long loan to former club Olympique Marseille, Thauvin confirms that he's made enough appearances to automatically alter the deal into a permanent transfer for an agreed amount. That mirrors the arrangement that took Remy Cabella back to OM on an initial loan last season, before his permanent return was confirmed in the summer. It's claimed that Newcastle will receive around £9.5m back for a player that they allegedly paid £15m for - and whose form back in France has been rewarded by an international call-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's been tearing it up this season. His heart was never in it here. Shows what a mess we are/were. Sign players who don't want to be here, mismanage them when they are here, then lose money on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Look forward to seeing Spurs lumbered with another one of our heartless pigs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 But McClaren didn't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pochettino rates Sissoko at £30m. Bloke's a loose cannon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pocchetino's the best thing to happen to English football in years, but he has made a handful of odd signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Unsurprising to see him do well in a really dreadful standard of league like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just our luck to see him sold for £30m after getting less than £10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hope they sell him for £100m and he scores 12 past us next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Anyone else notice that the poll results are giving a massive middle finger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Why on earth was binning him for Thauvin not by some distance the most popular choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hope they sell him for £100m and he scores 12 past us next year. Hat-rick in each half of each game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Another green tick for Carr and the Terrahawk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I hate Carr, but it's not his fault Thauvin very quickly decided he didn't want to be here anymore. Another one who would have been interesting to see with Rafa in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I hate Carr, but it's not his fault Thauvin very quickly decided he didn't want to be here anymore. Another one who would have been interesting to see with Rafa in charge. It's a scouts job to find out about players' character and personality as well as their footballing ability like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 it's a managers job to get the best out of his players and not just sack them off at the first sign of trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Happens all the time. Rafa sacked off Mbemba, Lazaar etc. Some are just too weak minded for the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Linked with a move to Spurs in todays press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Hat-rick today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 it's a managers job to get the best out of his players and not just sack them off at the first sign of trouble Keegan and Ginola springs to mind here. I doubt David would ever have contemplated coming here, or stuck it out for two years if someone else was in charge. He left pretty soon after Keegan once Dalglish made it clear he wasn't a fan. I never doubted Thauvin's talent, but he didn't want to be here, and it would have took someone with more charisma than McClaren to sell the club to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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