Jayson Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Hes said nothing wrong there. Some of young players need to prove their potential consistantly or they will never break into the side regardless of whos manager. In that case why doesn't he hold the senior players to the same standards? Not many of those younger players are responsible for the bilge we have been served up for the past 12 months. He may well do if he felt he had alternatives to them, thats obviously the role he wants the youngsters to play which he feels theyre not meeting. Certainly his first choice picks are debatable in the first place, but i dont disagree that added competition would help the side & i feel they could push that more. I agree with him that Santon looked impressive following Dummetts display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Given his total devotion to Tiote last season, what he's said about Bigirimana there is astonishing. Shades of "you'll win nothing with 11 James Milners" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 If those comments were coming from someone like Sir Bobby or Keegan, ie - a manager who was doing well and had the team performing - it would be more than acceptable. Young players need to step up and a manager is within his right to take a hard line if he feels that is the best way of motivating them. However, when you consider the absolutely s**** job he is doing, it's pretty staggering. How can he come out and say that when he persists with senior players who are under-performing? Why should Sammy bust his balls if he knows Jonas is just gonna come straight back in regardless? And the Bigi comment, man. f***ing hell. Aye the lad was pretty s**** when you played him on the right-wing against Benfica, you f***ing dope. He's on a hiding to nothing n'all so I'm surprised he's taken the risk of slagging them off. We're not signing anyone so he is going to need those players regardless of whether they play well tonight or not. Give them a grilling, they play s*** again, he's still stuck with needing them. I just hope it works because the comments are pretty transparent. Whether they're good enough players or not, they're going to be in and around the first team all year. Like I say, I don't really mind the man-management 'technique' he's gone for here, but I don't know how those players are meant to take them seriously. Balls out of the bath there, Alan. Hope it works out, ffs, you risky fecker. I don't mind him having a go at them but he needs to have the same principles with underachieving first teamers like Jonas, Shola etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He's a terrible creature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's wrong with challenging players to do well and show they're worthy of the shirt? They're not kids anymore. Are they expected to never face pressure and be given extended deals on 'potential' alone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's wrong with challenging players to do well and show they're worthy of the shirt? Nothing if it's done consistently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Felt sorry for Bigi in that Benfica game. What on earth Pardew was thinking I will never know. To throw a 18 year old defensive midfielder in at right wing, who hadn't played for a while in a quarter final against a team like Benfica was just ridiculous. I remember going to the game really excited about a potentially fantastic game and then saw the team news and realised Pardew had bottled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Some just don't get it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What is the benefit of him doing that to the senior players though? Surely the intention of doing it to the younger ones is to put a rocket up their arses that if they don't buck up, they'll not make it in the Premier League and slip down the leagues. That's not going to work on Tiote, Jonas, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's wrong with challenging players to do well and show they're worthy of the shirt? Doing it in the press is shit, Pardew is a coward who wouldn't have the balls to say the same to underperforming senior players. Saying it face to face is one thing and justified for Sammy and one or two others, doing it in the press is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What is the benefit of him doing that to the senior players though? Surely the intention of doing it to the younger ones is to put a rocket up their arses that if they don't buck up, they'll not make it in the Premier League and slip down the leagues. That's not going to work on Tiote, Jonas, etc. I agree it has to happen, but players under performing in first team and still getting games / escaping criticism sends wrong message as you want young players to lookup to the first team players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The Bigi comment is the only one that's really got my goat. After his cracking goal and performance against Wigan, he made a few fleeting sub appearances (most of which were 80+ minutes), and he hardly started. He started away to Manu and Arsenal, where we did well to start with, then Pardew led us like lambs to the slaughter for the last 20 minutes in both. Then there was Benfica, where he started him on the wing. Fucking clown, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What is the benefit of him doing that to the senior players though? Surely the intention of doing it to the younger ones is to put a rocket up their arses that if they don't buck up, they'll not make it in the Premier League and slip down the leagues. That's not going to work on Tiote, Jonas, etc. It'll not work with Tiote, Jonas, etc because they wouldn't accept it, nor should they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's wrong with challenging players to do well and show they're worthy of the shirt? Doing it in the press is shit, Pardew is a coward who wouldn't have the balls to say the same to underperforming senior players. Saying it face to face is one thing and justified for Sammy and one or two others, doing it in the press is disgusting. Yes, I am sure that he's just been avoiding them all in the build up to the game. Proper avoiding eye contact and hiding behind doors. Why am I even replying to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Yes, I am sure that he's just been avoiding them all in the build up to the game. Proper avoiding eye contact and hiding behind doors. Why am I even replying to this? My point is that he shouldn't be doing it in the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 @BonjourMonAmiNE: "Bigirimana, last year we all thought in his first couple of games he’s going to make it, but he had some poor games after that." Good comments like Who said that? Pardew http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-i-dont-want-5793256 “I want Sammy to put in a performance on Tuesday night that makes me think what should I do on Saturday. I don’t want players at this football club who aren’t going to contribute on the pitch. Fucking hate getting days mixed up, me. I've been running round like a cunt thinking it's Wednesday today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Calling us a 'big club' now, will this moron never learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Are we a small club now? I've lost track of what he's allowed to say and what he isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 In all fairness, he looked and sounded more bullish and confident in that interview on the match. lets see if it carries on with the players on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Blaming the Cabaye thing before the game for disrupting us this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Think the danger tonight is the young lads will be playing out of fear, rather than from any feeling of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Not fair on any youngsters playing under this genius. He's a detriment to our seniors, never mind the young ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I've had a look at what other PL managers were/are saying about their lower level opponents and I haven't seen anyone suggesting they'll lose. Why did I even bother? Some premier league managers get the support of their board. Ours have worked to force him out because they ''can't afford'' to sack him. He's an a position to get sacked because they ''couldn't afford'' to back him a the right time - i.e summer. I'm never surprised by his negativity. He's doing his job with his hands tied behind his back - a job he isn't spectacular at in the first place to an expectant crowd. Up shit creek without a paddle basically. You've been shit, get your fucking finger out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 "Showing our Premier League Class" Still there are morons that fall for his words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Underpants Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Can you just fuck off you useless sack of shit! Fuck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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