TRon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal, and everything looked happy." Isn't that part of the problem? I didn't see the game live but everything I read and heard suggested we started really well and just ran out of impetus and ideas. Under Pardew we simply don't dominate teams from start to finish when the opportunity is there, we've seen this time and time again over the years. He keeps claiming that an attacking side is what he wants to put out, and to play 'on the front foot' (remember that?). And yet too frequently his selections, formations, tactics and his team's response to going ahead early all show the complete opposite. As a simple example, we've scored more than three goals in a league match four times since he's been here, and three of those were in his first season with Hughton's team. That's once in the last 88 matches, despite all the attacking talent at his disposal. Does that sound like the record of a club that goes out to attack? Absolutely shocking when it's laid out like that. Gormless tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Don't forget Harper would have given Hull an in-depth scouting report on all of our players. May have had an effect. They definitely knew our weak points and marshalled Ben Arfa well. We aren't exactly that hard to defend against though really. We have zilch threat from set pieces, we dont cut through teams, we dont get decent crosses in, we never impose our game on a team to the extent they know they will get a decent chance at running a game, and we're predictable unless Ben Arfa gets his magic box out. Tactically we're pants. We really are the easiest side to set up against. Makes it all more weird that Villa played so open, lucky for us they did as we did play well. Looking like we played well because of their poor showing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/xfqpCLj.png Attack! Attack! Attack attack attack! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 God his football is really boring stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Scored 4+ once Conceded 4+ nine times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Even the solitary four wasn't a comprehensive win, Southampton led and then equalised before a penalty and an own goal took us to four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't we score 4 against Wolves a couple of seasons ago too? Or is that more than 88 matches ago? Edit: It was, comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't we score 4 against Wolves a couple of seasons ago too? Or is that more than 88 matches ago? I think the 88 games are from his first full season onward. The Wolves result was in his first 6 months i think, same with the Arsenal 4-4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Last 3 home games against mediocre opposition should have been 9 points. Instead we have 4. We will not survive with that sort of return from home games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Fucking hell I could have done without being reminded of that. Connor the poor sod didn't know where to turn to avoid multiple goal thrashings until Pards turned up with his notebook and vaseline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. I suppose it was still Hughton's team with different characters in there like Barton and Nolan, we might have better footballers now but definitely have less............something missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Fucking hell I could have done without being reminded of that. Connor the poor sod didn't know where to turn to avoid multiple goal thrashings until Pards turned up with his notebook and vaseline. That was Connor's only point gained wasn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. I suppose it was still Hughton's team with different characters in there like Barton and Nolan, we might have better footballers now but definitely have less............something missing. Commitment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Last 3 home games against mediocre opposition should have been 9 points. Instead we have 4. We will not survive with that sort of return from home games Best not let Brett know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. I suppose it was still Hughton's team with different characters in there like Barton and Nolan, we might have better footballers now but definitely have less............something missing. Commitment. Aye, a bit of know how as well i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Fucking hell I could have done without being reminded of that. Connor the poor sod didn't know where to turn to avoid multiple goal thrashings until Pards turned up with his notebook and vaseline. He was so bad he'd cry in interviews after every game. Except our game of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Without even having seen the game, it reminded me of the Wolves match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Think closer to Reading at home last season for levels of ineptitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. I suppose it was still Hughton's team with different characters in there like Barton and Nolan, we might have better footballers now but definitely have less............something missing. Commitment. The clue is in the thread title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "The formation was the same today, the set-up was the same but we looked not the same. Did he say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "The formation was the same today, the set-up was the same but we looked not the same. Did he say that? Why shouldn't he say that? He says what he wants people to believe rather then what happened in reality and some fall for it time after time after time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I was referring to 'we looked not the same'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I was referring to 'we looked not the same'. Again, he's telling people what to believe and some will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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