afar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I know the majority (well everyone bar Ian W ) wants the fraudster to be jettisoned even if we survive. But should we stay in the PL what are people's feelings on whether Ashley will actually sack him ? I think there's only about 10% chance of that happening, just think they are too pally and he's managed to pull the wool over there eyes with the EL, lack of investment in the summer and injuries. Mightn't last a month or two into the new season though if we don't get off to a good start. Was that really necessary? You b******. I was messing with ya, hence the Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I know the majority (well everyone bar Ian W ) wants the fraudster to be jettisoned even if we survive. But should we stay in the PL what are people's feelings on whether Ashley will actually sack him ? I think there's only about 10% chance of that happening, just think they are too pally and he's managed to pull the wool over there eyes with the EL, lack of investment in the summer and injuries. Mightn't last a month or two into the new season though if we don't get off to a good start. I think if Ashley's even considering sacking him then the summer is the best time to do it. There's no point in waiting until we're 10 games into next season, have crashed out of the League Cup and have a load of discontented players and fans. Plus whoever then takes over would need at least 5-10 games to get the players accustomed to their style of play so we'd already be halfway through the season. Another season of mediocrity and the better players would start getting itchy feet and we're back to rebuilding the squad. Just do it after the Arsenal game, replace him with someone competent and let them have a full pre-season to work with. If a new manager is making progress the better players would probably stick around for another year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I know the majority (well everyone bar Ian W ) wants the fraudster to be jettisoned even if we survive. But should we stay in the PL what are people's feelings on whether Ashley will actually sack him ? I think there's only about 10% chance of that happening, just think they are too pally and he's managed to pull the wool over there eyes with the EL, lack of investment in the summer and injuries. Mightn't last a month or two into the new season though if we don't get off to a good start. Was that really necessary? You bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I know the majority (well everyone bar Ian W ) wants the fraudster to be jettisoned even if we survive. But should we stay in the PL what are people's feelings on whether Ashley will actually sack him ? I think there's only about 10% chance of that happening, just think they are too pally and he's managed to pull the wool over there eyes with the EL, lack of investment in the summer and injuries. Mightn't last a month or two into the new season though if we don't get off to a good start. I think if Ashley's even considering sacking him then the summer is the best time to do it. There's no point in waiting until we're 10 games into next season, have crashed out of the League Cup and have a load of discontented players and fans. Plus whoever then takes over would need at least 5-10 games to get the players accustomed to their style of play so we'd already be halfway through the season. Another season of mediocrity and the better players would start getting itchy feet and we're back to rebuilding the squad. Just do it after the Arsenal game, replace him with someone competent and let them have a full pre-season to work with. If a new manager is making progress the better players would probably stick around for another year. I totally agree, but Ashley hasn't always done the right thing. He really shouldn't be in a job Monday morning after the Arsenal game, but I think he will be and will be when things kick off again for next season, closing the stable door after the horse has bolted will be how it goes down I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I know the majority (well everyone bar Ian W ) wants the fraudster to be jettisoned even if we survive. But should we stay in the PL what are people's feelings on whether Ashley will actually sack him ? I think there's only about 10% chance of that happening, just think they are too pally and he's managed to pull the wool over there eyes with the EL, lack of investment in the summer and injuries. Mightn't last a month or two into the new season though if we don't get off to a good start. Was that really necessary? You bastard. Am I the only one reading that and hearing Max (Pheonix Nights)? 'Yer Bastard, I can't believe you shot me Brother'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm honestly surprised so many people think he won't be here for the start of next season if we stay up. I've seen nothing from Ashley to suggest he'd do anything other than give him another season, or at least the beginning of another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It would be classic Newcastle to throw away the first 10 games of next year with Pardew in charge. Only to sack him whilst we are bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm honestly surprised so many people think he won't be here for the start of next season if we stay up. I've seen nothing from Ashley to suggest he'd do anything other than give him another season, or at least the beginning of another one. I've no idea TBH, could go either way. I'd put the sackometer at about 60% likely to go at the moment, but it's hard to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The forum seems split, which basically means we dont know what they will do. On the one hand, Ashley could be ruthless. On the other, he could stick by his "mate". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The forum seems split, which basically means we dont know what they will do. On the one hand, Ashley could be ruthless. On the other, he could stick by his "mate". Haters vs Waiters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew on Pointless. 5 people knew he was our manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm honestly surprised so many people think he won't be here for the start of next season if we stay up. I've seen nothing from Ashley to suggest he'd do anything other than give him another season, or at least the beginning of another one. Ashley's track record suggest he has an itchy trigger finger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anyone read Ryder's latest piece? http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/05/show-ambition-united---or-face.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I think ultimately its also down to the availability of cheap managers that could be employed too, if a better manager say Jol, Martinez etc or someone they can afford becomes available , i think they would consider Fraud Pardew's position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Just to Back up what i said, i believe Ashley is an opportunist which would make changes when there is better for the same amount. His Business dealing with Rangers and other sneaky deals proves he is one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 What a horrible writer Lee Ryder is. But on a day when some Manchester United fans were embarrassed by a flag that read: "Three years of excuses - and it's still c*** - Tara Fergie"' date=' others will be prepared to see what he can deliver when given more backing during a summer transfer window.[/quote'] So some Manchester fans will be prepared to see what Fergie can deliver when given more backing during a summer transfer window? Also, you're not fooling anyone by avoiding paragraph structure with sentence/paragraphs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anyone read Ryder's latest piece? http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/05/show-ambition-united---or-face.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter He started off actually pretty well there, but with then when seemingly backing Pardew for another year began to lose it completely. He's a terrible journo really, not sure what the Ronny Gill were thinking when they gave him the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It'll be a valid point when Pardew has a record comparable to Ferguson's when he joined Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anyone read Ryder's latest piece? http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/05/show-ambition-united---or-face.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter He started off actually pretty well there, but with then when seemingly backing Pardew for another year began to lose it completely. He's a terrible journo really, not sure what the Ronny Gill were thinking when they gave him the job. I don't even see a point in that. What? Give Pardew money in the summer? That hasn't been the problem. Is he so shit scared of the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anyone read Ryder's latest piece? http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/05/show-ambition-united---or-face.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter He started off actually pretty well there, but with then when seemingly backing Pardew for another year began to lose it completely. He's a terrible journo really, not sure what the Ronny Gill were thinking when they gave him the job. I don't even see a point in that. What? Give Pardew money in the summer? That hasn't been the problem. Is he so s*** scared of the club? He's kind of making the point that we should go back to the Freddie days I think. I agree Pardew has been given all the tools to get the job done, he's just not been able to do it, because he's a fucking terrible manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 That is truly horrendous writing. How does he make a living doing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 This Fergie retirement coming at the worst possible time. Our thick owners will be using his early years as the perfect excuse to keep him. Then there's Moyes hitting the headlines. His own early years of challenging for Europe then a relegation battle. So fuckin depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 This Fergie retirement coming at the worst possible time. Our thick owners will be using his early years as the perfect excuse to keep him. Then there's Moyes hitting the headlines. His own early years of challenging for Europe then a relegation battle. So fuckin depressing. Or this is random conjecture and the retirement of Alex Ferguson will have absolutely no effect on the management situation at Newcastle United. Don't be depressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mattoon Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 You'd think after backing him so heavily in January though and seeing that money go down the drain drastically with performances, player values and ultimately league position, which itself poses a loss in revenue due to league standings rewards, Ashley MUST be seething. Can you really see him swallowing that? He's in it for at least making his money back and this will be a huge dent in his endeavours. I believe Pardew bought himself time with last years 5th place, but that time has run out, he was backed in January, when he should have been fired and he's made a mockery of them. Surely his cards must be marked now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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