mrmojorisin75 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 wonder what he was expecting hull to do, turn up and give us loads of space like villa did? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He didn't mention Villa, the bastion of a good performance, enough. You'd really think we'd gone to Old Trafford and pumped them 4-0 wouldn't you? A fucking standard away win at Aston Villa for God's sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes Alan, we'd like to put it behind us as well, so please fuck off asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal" Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal, and everything looked happy." Isn't that part of the problem? I didn't see the game live but everything I read and heard suggested we started really well and just ran out of impetus and ideas. Under Pardew we simply don't dominate teams from start to finish when the opportunity is there, we've seen this time and time again over the years. He keeps claiming that an attacking side is what he wants to put out, and to play 'on the front foot' (remember that?). And yet too frequently his selections, formations, tactics and his team's response to going ahead early all show the complete opposite. As a simple example, we've scored more than three goals in a league match four times since he's been here, and three of those were in his first season with Hughton's team. That's once in the last 88 matches, despite all the attacking talent at his disposal. Does that sound like the record of a club that goes out to attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We had a day at the office that we would like to forget quite quickly, and move on.” Yes it was just a bad day at the office Alan. Apart from the 4-0 pounding at City and the whole of last season, we've defended like a rock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal, and everything looked happy." Isn't that part of the problem? I didn't see the game live but everything I read and heard suggested we started really well and just ran out of impetus and ideas. Under Pardew we simply don't dominate teams from start to finish when the opportunity is there, we've seen this time and time again over the years. He keeps claiming that an attacking side is what he wants to put out, and to play 'on the front foot' (remember that?). And yet too frequently his selections, formations, tactics and his team's response to going ahead early all show the complete opposite. As a simple example, we've scored more than three goals in a league match four times since he's been here, and three of those were in his first season with Hughton's team. That's once in the last 88 matches, despite all the attacking talent at his disposal. The players played like they would only need to score the first goal and then they'd win yesterday. The intensity levels after the first goal dropped markedly for the rest of the half and then completely disappeared for the second half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal, and everything looked happy." Isn't that part of the problem? I didn't see the game live but everything I read and heard suggested we started really well and just ran out of impetus and ideas. Under Pardew we simply don't dominate teams from start to finish when the opportunity is there, we've seen this time and time again over the years. He keeps claiming that an attacking side is what he wants to put out, and to play 'on the front foot' (remember that?). And yet too frequently his selections, formations, tactics and his team's response to going ahead early all show the complete opposite. As a simple example, we've scored more than three goals in a league match four times since he's been here, and three of those were in his first season with Hughton's team. That's once in the last 88 matches, despite all the attacking talent at his disposal. Does that sound like the record of a club that goes out to attack? You may not have been there yesterday but I can guarantee you've seen very similar games over the last couple of years. Same old story, same bloke in the dugout unable to do anything to get the initiative back once his team had surrendered it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not only that but he actively made it worse IMO by switching to a piss poor 4-4-2 which meant we had fewer options in midfield and allowed Huddlestone a 10 yard buffer in which to dictate the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Was rocking rainbow laces yesterday http://i.imgur.com/oH86Ugp.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Don't forget Harper would have given Hull an in-depth scouting report on all of our players. May have had an effect. They definitely knew our weak points and marshalled Ben Arfa well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Don't forget Harper would have given Hull an in-depth scouting report on all of our players. May have had an effect. They definitely knew our weak points and marshalled Ben Arfa well. come on, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "We started really, really well and got the goal, which is not something we do often at home, get an early goal, and everything looked happy." Isn't that part of the problem? I didn't see the game live but everything I read and heard suggested we started really well and just ran out of impetus and ideas. Under Pardew we simply don't dominate teams from start to finish when the opportunity is there, we've seen this time and time again over the years. He keeps claiming that an attacking side is what he wants to put out, and to play 'on the front foot' (remember that?). And yet too frequently his selections, formations, tactics and his team's response to going ahead early all show the complete opposite. As a simple example, we've scored more than three goals in a league match four times since he's been here, and three of those were in his first season with Hughton's team. That's once in the last 88 matches, despite all the attacking talent at his disposal. Does that sound like the record of a club that goes out to attack? Absolutely shocking when it's laid out like that. Gormless tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Don't forget Harper would have given Hull an in-depth scouting report on all of our players. May have had an effect. They definitely knew our weak points and marshalled Ben Arfa well. We aren't exactly that hard to defend against though really. We have zilch threat from set pieces, we dont cut through teams, we dont get decent crosses in, we never impose our game on a team to the extent they know they will get a decent chance at running a game, and we're predictable unless Ben Arfa gets his magic box out. Tactically we're pants. We really are the easiest side to set up against. Makes it all more weird that Villa played so open, lucky for us they did as we did play well. Looking like we played well because of their poor showing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/xfqpCLj.png Attack! Attack! Attack attack attack! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 God his football is really boring stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Scored 4+ once Conceded 4+ nine times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Even the solitary four wasn't a comprehensive win, Southampton led and then equalised before a penalty and an own goal took us to four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't we score 4 against Wolves a couple of seasons ago too? Or is that more than 88 matches ago? Edit: It was, comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Didn't we score 4 against Wolves a couple of seasons ago too? Or is that more than 88 matches ago? I think the 88 games are from his first full season onward. The Wolves result was in his first 6 months i think, same with the Arsenal 4-4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Last 3 home games against mediocre opposition should have been 9 points. Instead we have 4. We will not survive with that sort of return from home games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Wolves game a year later when Terry Connor was in charge and they were conceding five goals on a regular basis in which we came out after half time and attempted to defend a 2-0 lead is still one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen from a Newcastle team. Nothing has changed since then in terms of mentality. Fucking hell I could have done without being reminded of that. Connor the poor sod didn't know where to turn to avoid multiple goal thrashings until Pards turned up with his notebook and vaseline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah, I was pretty lazy then thought about it and worked it out. We were practically cavalier in those first 6 months compared to how we are now. I suppose it was still Hughton's team with different characters in there like Barton and Nolan, we might have better footballers now but definitely have less............something missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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