Interpolic Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 what a wanker he is. I don't see what he's said wrong there and anyway I don't think there's any point going through this all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Positive vibes. Hopefully backed up with a positive performance at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 what a w***** he is. I don't see what he's said wrong there and anyway I don't think there's any point going through this all over again. I was only joking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 what a w***** he is. I don't see what he's said wrong there and anyway I don't think there's any point going through this all over again. I was only joking. So was polic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 d'oh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 If you want to ask me if I want to play in the Champions League I do, absolutely, and Yohan wants to play in the Champions League of course but we want him to do that here. We are trying to build that but it is difficult and it is only players like Yohan Cabaye who will get us there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Trying to build towards top 4 while saying we can't compete with Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 We've got 7-8 players who wouldn't look out of place in the Champions League tbh. Krul, Debuchy, Santon, Coloccini, Mbiwa, Cabaye, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Remy....if we played in any other league in Europe I reckon we'd be a top 4 team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 We've got 7-8 players who wouldn't look out of place in the Champions League tbh. Krul, Debuchy, Santon, Coloccini, Mbiwa, Cabaye, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Remy....if we played in any other league in Europe I reckon we'd be a top 4 team. + Gouffran & Anita fer me lyk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Tbf to him on the injuries part we were hit hard with them last season no matter if people want to accept it or not. For example this was the team that lost 7-3 to Arsenal.... Krul-Simpson-Coloccini-Perch-Santon-Tiote-Bigi-Marveaux-Obertan-Ba-Cisse and the bench was... Shola, Sammy, Abeid, Streete, Tavernier, Ferguson and Harper. It wasn't the only occasion we had a team like that or a worse one either, can't deny that it had an impact. Still no excuse for finishing 16th or whatever it was but silly to deny it didn't have an impact on our season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Still no excuse for finishing 16th or whatever it was but silly to deny it didn't have an impact on our season. All a question of degree. Obviously it had an impact, but some do say it's an excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Injuries and Europa League - neither of them forces him to play hoof ball with Cissé on the wing and concede 68 goals. Not explanations nor are they excuses for what he served up last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Cliche bingo. House! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I absolutely accept injuries will have a part to play and we had a lot, quite a few times a number of key players were out at the same time. On the other hand we didn't do enough in that summer to make sure we could cope with the demands and the negative tactics more than played a part. He could have had a season that performance wise wasn't great but gotten enough respect by the way he went about it. The excuses negated any good that could have been done. This season he isn't doing bad and we seem to be writing some wrongs. I doubt we will shift him and even if we do I am certain it will be Kinnear so I hope for all our sakes he keeps the excuses to a minimum and doesn't let his arse drop as soon as we go through a poor spell. His lack of confidence definitely rips through the team (see confident Pardew this season and the performances from the likes of Williamson and Tiote). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Pardew, injuries, Europa..... <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=3628"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Arsenio_AHHHHR.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I absolutely accept injuries will have a part to play and we had a lot, quite a few times a number of key players were out at the same time. On the other hand we didn't do enough in that summer to make sure we could cope with the demands and the negative tactics more than played a part. He could have had a season that performance wise wasn't great but gotten enough respect by the way he went about it. The excuses negated any good that could have been done. This season he isn't doing bad and we seem to be writing some wrongs. I doubt we will shift him and even if we do I am certain it will be Kinnear so I hope for all our sakes he keeps the excuses to a minimum and doesn't let his arse drop as soon as we go through a poor spell. His lack of confidence definitely rips through the team (see confident Pardew this season and the performances from the likes of Williamson and Tiote). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 We've got 7-8 players who wouldn't look out of place in the Champions League tbh. Krul, Debuchy, Santon, Coloccini, Mbiwa, Cabaye, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Remy....if we played in any other league in Europe I reckon we'd be a top 4 team. Why are you bankrupting the club chasing the CL with no PL TV money behind you, speculating wildily on players you can't afford? Seems reckless tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 He'll probably want to spend the CL money on players with 12+ months on their contract that play in a country other than France as well - been watching too many Premier League Years episodes from when Leeds were good, obvs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 A young Richard Harris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Injuries and Europa League - neither of them forces him to play hoof ball with Cissé on the wing and concede 68 goals. Not explanations nor are they excuses for what he served up last season. Pardew's inability to get us playing in a defined system as a team for the majority of his time here is what has raised doubts about his ability. He does appear to have chopped and changed his way to an eleven that look fairly well organised currently though. The test will come when we come up against a side that keeps Remy quiet. Hopefully as a team we can work goals through good attacking play as well as hitting teams on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Injuries and Europa League - neither of them forces him to play hoof ball with Cissé on the wing and concede 68 goals. Not explanations nor are they excuses for what he served up last season. Pardew's inability to get us playing in a defined system as a team for the majority of his time here is what has raised doubts about his ability. He does appear to have chopped and changed his way to an eleven that look fairly well organised currently though. The test will come when we come up against a side that keeps Remy quiet. Hopefully as a team we can work goals through good attacking play as well as hitting teams on the break. This is my main criticism. On the basis of the past 18 months, the manager employed at this club has been unsuccessful in learning his side how to attack or defend. We lost 19 league games last season, mainly as a result of that. If the recent upturn in form and results is a result of him revising his football approach or learning new ways of utilizing the talent at the club, then sure - go on and bring the club forward. On evidence of his career and the previous reoccurance of the same mistakes, he has a very long way to go before my belief is back with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Think which ever back four he picks today will probably end up in him getting criticised. If he benches MYM then we'll say we missed his pace and he didn't deserve to lose his spot. If he benches Colo then something like we missed his experience, he's the captain etc. I'm edging towards the idea we will miss Mapou slightly more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 mbiwa would be the better bet for me today, they've pace and movement on the break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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