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South: Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Fulham, West Ham, Palace, Norwich, Southampton, Swansea, Cardiff

 

North: Newcastle, Man U, Man City, Everton, Liverpool, Villa, West Brom, Hull, Stoke, Sunderland

 

Really quickly...

 

Vorm

 

Clyne

Vertonghen

Terry

Taylor

 

Morrison

Lampard

Ozil

 

Townsend

Giroud

Lallana

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South: Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Fulham, West Ham, Palace, Norwich, Southampton, Swansea, Cardiff

 

North: Newcastle, Man U, Man City, Everton, Liverpool, Villa, West Brom, Hull, Stoke, Sunderland

 

Begovic

 

Johnson

Kompany

Jagielka

Baines

 

Cabaye

Carrick

 

Rooney

Suarez

Aguero

 

Benteke

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Picking those teams, it did feel like the wealth of the talent is in the north. It was a lot more difficult to fit in the talent in the south team, whereas the north team I've ended up leaving out players like Van Persie and Yaya Toure.

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Football Association defeated in summer plans to ban players for diving using video evidence

Attempts to introduce new laws may be ressurected by FA following latest diving controversies.

 

 

A Football Association plan to ban players for diving using video evidence was blocked by the Premier League, Football League and elite referees, it has emerged.

 

During a week in which Ashley Young and Ramires thrust the issue of simulation back into the spotlight, Telegraph Sport has learnt efforts to stamp it out of the English game were vetoed during the summer.

 

The Football Regulatory Authority, which decides upon rule changes in England, discussed emulating Scotland by introducing retrospective action for diving at a meeting this year.

 

The proposal was backed by the FA but failed to gain the support of the game’s other stakeholders, in particular the two professional leagues and Professional Game Match Official Ltd.

 

With the FA wedded at that stage to the concept of rule changes being enacted only by stakeholder agreement, the idea was duly dropped.

 

But the furore over alleged dives by Manchester United winger Young at Real Sociedad and Chelsea midfielder Ramires against West Bromwich Albion looks set to spark attempts to resurrect it.

 

With the FA having abandoned protocol last month by forcing through a mid-season change to its rules on retrospective action – in defiance of the Premier League and Football League – it may be emboldened to attempt something similar with diving.

 

FA chairman Greg Dyke was the driving force behind a tweak to the regulations which take effect a week on Friday after Fernando Torres avoided trial by video for raking the face of Jan Vertonghen.

 

Whether Dyke or the FA have the appetite to rush through a rule change on diving before the summer remains to be seen but it is understood that there is enough support for it to be debated again in the close season.

 

The Scottish Football Association has used video evidence to ban players for simulation in recent years, with two-match suspensions sometimes applied even though it is only a yellow-card offence if punished on the field of play.

 

The opposition of the professional game to such a rule being adopted in England centres on the difficulty in proving whether a player has dived and the wider implications for banning a player whose actions may have materially affected the outcome of a match.

 

However, several Premier League managers have called for retrospective action on simulation, including Young’s and Ramires’s own bosses.

 

United’s David Moyes, who absolved Young of diving against Sociedad, said: “I said after the game and I have said for many years diving is something we should have retrospective video for. That would help referees no end.”

 

Mourinho said of simulation last month: “I say I hate it. If you were born in countries where simulation is accepted, the moment you come to this country you have to change immediately your ship.

 

"This is not about winning or losing, this is about keeping a culture or allowing a culture to change.

 

"I have not dropped a player because of diving, but I have been strong and critical.

 

"I spoke about it with [Didier] Drogba and [Arjen] Robben. Of course, my players know they will be in big trouble with me if they dive. I tell them many times I hate it. It’s very bad.”

 

Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger last season called for an ethics committee to be set-up to adjudicate over diving incidents retrospectively.

 

“With this committee, an obvious dive should be punished by a three-match ban,” he said.

 

Former Stoke City manager Tony Pulis echoed that, saying last season: “I’ve been on about and banging the drum about people who fall over.

 

“It’s an embarrassment. The FA should be looking at this.”

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10445341/Football-Association-defeated-in-summer-plans-to-ban-players-for-diving-using-video-evidence.html

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Picking those teams, it did feel like the wealth of the talent is in the north. It was a lot more difficult to fit in the talent in the south team, whereas the north team I've ended up leaving out players like Van Persie and Yaya Toure.

Other than Arsenal and Chelsea, no club south of Birmingham has won the English league since 1962. Other than the big London three, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham, the other clubs in the "South" are Fulham (a nothing club, as people here love to state) and sides that were promoted within the last three seasons. Up north, even the clubs that don't win trophies are historical with large supporter bases, such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and Everton. It is not really a fair comparison.

 

Also, Birmingham is definitely in Southern England. Otherwise, Northern England is 75 percent of England.

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Picking those teams, it did feel like the wealth of the talent is in the north. It was a lot more difficult to fit in the talent in the south team, whereas the north team I've ended up leaving out players like Van Persie and Yaya Toure.

Other than Arsenal and Chelsea, no club south of Birmingham has won the English league since 1962. Other than the big London three, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham, the other clubs in the "South" are Fulham (a nothing club, as people here love to state) and sides that were promoted within the last three seasons. Up north, even the clubs that don't win trophies are historical with large supporter bases, such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and Everton. It is not really a fair comparison.

 

Also, Birmingham is definitely in Southern England. Otherwise, Northern England is 75 percent of England.

 

Geographically, yes. Culturally, no.

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Picking those teams, it did feel like the wealth of the talent is in the north. It was a lot more difficult to fit in the talent in the south team, whereas the north team I've ended up leaving out players like Van Persie and Yaya Toure.

Other than Arsenal and Chelsea, no club south of Birmingham has won the English league since 1962. Other than the big London three, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham, the other clubs in the "South" are Fulham (a nothing club, as people here love to state) and sides that were promoted within the last three seasons. Up north, even the clubs that don't win trophies are historical with large supporter bases, such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and Everton. It is not really a fair comparison.

 

Also, Birmingham is definitely in Southern England. Otherwise, Northern England is 75 percent of England.

 

Geographically, yes. Culturally, no.

My experience with the United Kingdom is essentially just a lot of London, so I'm not trying to change the culture of the place, just noting the imbalance and how they make comparisons such as these difficult. :lol:

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Picking those teams, it did feel like the wealth of the talent is in the north. It was a lot more difficult to fit in the talent in the south team, whereas the north team I've ended up leaving out players like Van Persie and Yaya Toure.

Other than Arsenal and Chelsea, no club south of Birmingham has won the English league since 1962. Other than the big London three, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham, the other clubs in the "South" are Fulham (a nothing club, as people here love to state) and sides that were promoted within the last three seasons. Up north, even the clubs that don't win trophies are historical with large supporter bases, such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and Everton. It is not really a fair comparison.

 

Also, Birmingham is definitely in Southern England. Otherwise, Northern England is 75 percent of England.

 

Geographically, yes. Culturally, no.

My experience with the United Kingdom is essentially just a lot of London, so I'm not trying to change the culture of the place, just noting the imbalance and how they make comparisons such as these difficult. :lol:

 

Nah, I know. There's just a very noticable divide between London and its surrounding area and the rest of the country, which they generally just label 'the north'

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