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The Football Association is determined that this month will be the last transfer window in which clubs will be able to use a discredited appeals process to sign the non-European Union players who, the governing body fears, block the progress of young English footballers into Premier League squads.

 

The proposal was part of Greg Dyke’s FA Commission report last year into the diminishing numbers of English footballers in the top flight and the FA chairman hopes to change the rules ahead of the summer transfer window so that clubs will no longer be able to go to appeal in order to gain Home Office work permits for players who do not meet the criteria.

 

Currently, the work permit requirement for players without an EU passport is that they have to be an international from a country ranked within Fifa’s top 70 and have played 75 per cent of their country’s international matches in the last two years. However, the biggest concern for Dyke has been the ease with which those who have failed to meet those criteria have been waved through in an appeals process run by the FA on behalf of the Home Office.

 

The latest player to sign via appeal has been the Croatia international Andrej Kramaric, whom Leicester City have now agreed a £9.5m deal to sign from HNK Rijeka in Croatia’s domestic league, after he was approved for a work permit at a Home Office hearing on Monday. The striker has been capped just four times by his country but the panel heard evidence from the Croatia national team coach, Niko Kovac, that he intends to use the player in the future and was satisfied he would be a worthy addition to the Premier League.

 

While Croatia is a new member of the EU its citizens are still subject to restrictions on working and a work permit is necessary for the country’s footballers to play in the Premier League. Chelsea had tried to sign Kramaric but the player was not interested in being loaned to Vitesse Arnhem, their partner club.

 

Dyke has described the current appeal system as “a bit of a farce”. He bemoaned the awarding of Home Office work permits to players whom the panel approved “because the manager shows up at appeal with a video saying, ‘He will be a good player’.”

 

Under the wording of FA regulations on permit hearings, the panel has to consider if “the player is of the highest calibre” and “able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England”. In reality, the six-strong panels, made up of representatives from the FA and Professional Footballers’ Association, as well as former managers and players, wave through applications. The success rate at appeal is 79 per cent.

 

Under tougher new rules proposed by Dyke, the subjective panel hearings would be scrapped. The criteria would be changed with the threshold of international appearances brought down to 30 per cent, to allow for players from top nations like Brazil where the competition to play international football is that much greater. The player in question would have to play for a country ranked in the top 50 by Fifa. There would be an exemption for any player who cost more than £10m.

 

The £10m minimum would be brought in to stop the flow of the more mediocre players priced around £2m and £3m, who are regarded as chiefly responsible for blocking the progress of academy players into the first-team squad. It is hoped the changes would encourage clubs to focus their investment on fewer non-EU players of higher quality.

 

In the summer transfer window, West Bromwich Albion broke their transfer record to sign the Nigerian international Brown Ideye from Dynamo Kiev for £10m. His work permit was gained on appeal even though the player failed to make Nigeria’s World Cup squad. He has since scored just one Premier League goal. The problem for Dyke is that under his proposals the £10m fee would have been enough to earn the player a work permit.

 

 

Dyke's key proposals

 

* Subjective panel hearings will be scrapped

* International appearance threshold cut to 30 per cent

* Player would have to play for a country in Fifa’s top 50

* Exemptions for players costing over £10m

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-9976354.html

 

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On the Ideye Brown point, he was a mainstay in the team until the World Cup process, when he was out of form, and had been playing at the top level for years. Why would he be denied a work permit? I don't understand the work permit system at all, tbh, at least in regards to football. Why are players with an EU passport more highly regarded than ones that don't have one? What does a player's work at national team level and the ranking of his have to do with his worthiness to play in your country? Under the set of rules Dyke proposed, someone like Wanyama wouldn't qualify for a work permit, unless someone paid ten million for him, so the big clubs can have another advantage. If their problem is the progress of British players being blocked, then they should focus on providing incentives for clubs to sign players with British passports under a certain age, not creating a bizarre system to arbitrarily limit the movement of foreign players. They are looking at the problem backwards

on the EU passport thing its not so much as being highly regarded as the FA literally has no choice, any attempt to limit eu players would have the fa coming down on them like a ton of bricks for breaking eu law on freedom of movement.

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The Football Association is determined that this month will be the last transfer window in which clubs will be able to use a discredited appeals process to sign the non-European Union players who, the governing body fears, block the progress of young English footballers into Premier League squads.

 

The proposal was part of Greg Dyke’s FA Commission report last year into the diminishing numbers of English footballers in the top flight and the FA chairman hopes to change the rules ahead of the summer transfer window so that clubs will no longer be able to go to appeal in order to gain Home Office work permits for players who do not meet the criteria.

 

Currently, the work permit requirement for players without an EU passport is that they have to be an international from a country ranked within Fifa’s top 70 and have played 75 per cent of their country’s international matches in the last two years. However, the biggest concern for Dyke has been the ease with which those who have failed to meet those criteria have been waved through in an appeals process run by the FA on behalf of the Home Office.

 

The latest player to sign via appeal has been the Croatia international Andrej Kramaric, whom Leicester City have now agreed a £9.5m deal to sign from HNK Rijeka in Croatia’s domestic league, after he was approved for a work permit at a Home Office hearing on Monday. The striker has been capped just four times by his country but the panel heard evidence from the Croatia national team coach, Niko Kovac, that he intends to use the player in the future and was satisfied he would be a worthy addition to the Premier League.

 

While Croatia is a new member of the EU its citizens are still subject to restrictions on working and a work permit is necessary for the country’s footballers to play in the Premier League. Chelsea had tried to sign Kramaric but the player was not interested in being loaned to Vitesse Arnhem, their partner club.

 

Dyke has described the current appeal system as “a bit of a farce”. He bemoaned the awarding of Home Office work permits to players whom the panel approved “because the manager shows up at appeal with a video saying, ‘He will be a good player’.”

 

Under the wording of FA regulations on permit hearings, the panel has to consider if “the player is of the highest calibre” and “able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England”. In reality, the six-strong panels, made up of representatives from the FA and Professional Footballers’ Association, as well as former managers and players, wave through applications. The success rate at appeal is 79 per cent.

 

Under tougher new rules proposed by Dyke, the subjective panel hearings would be scrapped. The criteria would be changed with the threshold of international appearances brought down to 30 per cent, to allow for players from top nations like Brazil where the competition to play international football is that much greater. The player in question would have to play for a country ranked in the top 50 by Fifa. There would be an exemption for any player who cost more than £10m.

 

The £10m minimum would be brought in to stop the flow of the more mediocre players priced around £2m and £3m, who are regarded as chiefly responsible for blocking the progress of academy players into the first-team squad. It is hoped the changes would encourage clubs to focus their investment on fewer non-EU players of higher quality.

 

In the summer transfer window, West Bromwich Albion broke their transfer record to sign the Nigerian international Brown Ideye from Dynamo Kiev for £10m. His work permit was gained on appeal even though the player failed to make Nigeria’s World Cup squad. He has since scored just one Premier League goal. The problem for Dyke is that under his proposals the £10m fee would have been enough to earn the player a work permit.

 

 

Dyke's key proposals

 

* Subjective panel hearings will be scrapped

* International appearance threshold cut to 30 per cent

* Player would have to play for a country in Fifa’s top 50

* Exemptions for players costing over £10m

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-9976354.html

 

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On the Ideye Brown point, he was a mainstay in the team until the World Cup process, when he was out of form, and had been playing at the top level for years. Why would he be denied a work permit? I don't understand the work permit system at all, tbh, at least in regards to football. Why are players with an EU passport more highly regarded than ones that don't have one? What does a player's work at national team level and the ranking of his have to do with his worthiness to play in your country? Under the set of rules Dyke proposed, someone like Wanyama wouldn't qualify for a work permit, unless someone paid ten million for him, so the big clubs can have another advantage. If their problem is the progress of British players being blocked, then they should focus on providing incentives for clubs to sign players with British passports under a certain age, not creating a bizarre system to arbitrarily limit the movement of foreign players. They are looking at the problem backwards

on the EU passport thing its not so much as being highly regarded as the FA literally has no choice, any attempt to limit eu players would have the fa coming down on them like a ton of bricks for breaking eu law on freedom of movement.

I understand that, but it is still silly that players from ~27 countries are free to move, while everyone else is filtered through this stupid and inefficient process. The proposed plan makes even less sense. I just want you to understand that under the system your FA are proposing, no Asian player (no one in this confederation is top-50) would be allowed to sign at any English club unless they cost ten million pound. What sense does that make? :lol:

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:sweetjesus:

 

:lol: Aye, he played for both your teams, didn't he? I remember when he first came back with Villa and we gave him Degs Abuse and he was hauled off before half time in a right strop. He still loves us tho.

 

Villa is not one of my teams man :lol: It was a joke that I was supporting Villa to beat us to get Pardew out.

 

:lol: I know. It was an open goal, I couldn't miss.

 

:sweetjesus:

 

:lol: Aye, he played for both your teams, didn't he? I remember when he first came back with Villa and we gave him Degs Abuse and he was hauled off before half time in a right strop. He still loves us tho.

 

http://s14.postimg.org/v18kxb1o1/degs.png

 

:lol:

 

I've been waiting for ages to drag that back up. :lol:

 

Two birds with one stone, I wish I were sober enough to appreciate it.

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Ahh Skirge man. Still got me blocked on Twitter, had a massive flounce cos I was being negative about Pardew

 

You're kidding aren't you? He was never the brightest but what in the fuck actually happened to him?

 

He was full on the "Ashley's to blame, not Pardew" typeset when I followed him. Although I think it was me slagging off fans praising 'grafters' that pushed him over the edge. Called me a source of 'constant negativity' and blocked me.

 

Thing is, I'm convinced Skirge is a proper sound bloke but he talks some rubbish like.

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:sweetjesus:

 

:lol: Aye, he played for both your teams, didn't he? I remember when he first came back with Villa and we gave him Degs Abuse and he was hauled off before half time in a right strop. He still loves us tho.

 

Vila is not one of my teams man :lol: It was a joke that I was supporting Villa to beat us to get Pardew out.

 

I feel like few people got that joke after the initial phase had finished tbh :lol:

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The Football Association is determined that this month will be the last transfer window in which clubs will be able to use a discredited appeals process to sign the non-European Union players who, the governing body fears, block the progress of young English footballers into Premier League squads.

 

The proposal was part of Greg Dyke’s FA Commission report last year into the diminishing numbers of English footballers in the top flight and the FA chairman hopes to change the rules ahead of the summer transfer window so that clubs will no longer be able to go to appeal in order to gain Home Office work permits for players who do not meet the criteria.

 

Currently, the work permit requirement for players without an EU passport is that they have to be an international from a country ranked within Fifa’s top 70 and have played 75 per cent of their country’s international matches in the last two years. However, the biggest concern for Dyke has been the ease with which those who have failed to meet those criteria have been waved through in an appeals process run by the FA on behalf of the Home Office.

 

The latest player to sign via appeal has been the Croatia international Andrej Kramaric, whom Leicester City have now agreed a £9.5m deal to sign from HNK Rijeka in Croatia’s domestic league, after he was approved for a work permit at a Home Office hearing on Monday. The striker has been capped just four times by his country but the panel heard evidence from the Croatia national team coach, Niko Kovac, that he intends to use the player in the future and was satisfied he would be a worthy addition to the Premier League.

 

While Croatia is a new member of the EU its citizens are still subject to restrictions on working and a work permit is necessary for the country’s footballers to play in the Premier League. Chelsea had tried to sign Kramaric but the player was not interested in being loaned to Vitesse Arnhem, their partner club.

 

Dyke has described the current appeal system as “a bit of a farce”. He bemoaned the awarding of Home Office work permits to players whom the panel approved “because the manager shows up at appeal with a video saying, ‘He will be a good player’.”

 

Under the wording of FA regulations on permit hearings, the panel has to consider if “the player is of the highest calibre” and “able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England”. In reality, the six-strong panels, made up of representatives from the FA and Professional Footballers’ Association, as well as former managers and players, wave through applications. The success rate at appeal is 79 per cent.

 

Under tougher new rules proposed by Dyke, the subjective panel hearings would be scrapped. The criteria would be changed with the threshold of international appearances brought down to 30 per cent, to allow for players from top nations like Brazil where the competition to play international football is that much greater. The player in question would have to play for a country ranked in the top 50 by Fifa. There would be an exemption for any player who cost more than £10m.

 

The £10m minimum would be brought in to stop the flow of the more mediocre players priced around £2m and £3m, who are regarded as chiefly responsible for blocking the progress of academy players into the first-team squad. It is hoped the changes would encourage clubs to focus their investment on fewer non-EU players of higher quality.

 

In the summer transfer window, West Bromwich Albion broke their transfer record to sign the Nigerian international Brown Ideye from Dynamo Kiev for £10m. His work permit was gained on appeal even though the player failed to make Nigeria’s World Cup squad. He has since scored just one Premier League goal. The problem for Dyke is that under his proposals the £10m fee would have been enough to earn the player a work permit.

 

 

Dyke's key proposals

 

* Subjective panel hearings will be scrapped

* International appearance threshold cut to 30 per cent

* Player would have to play for a country in Fifa’s top 50

* Exemptions for players costing over £10m

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-9976354.html

 

Intradesting

On the Ideye Brown point, he was a mainstay in the team until the World Cup process, when he was out of form, and had been playing at the top level for years. Why would he be denied a work permit? I don't understand the work permit system at all, tbh, at least in regards to football. Why are players with an EU passport more highly regarded than ones that don't have one? What does a player's work at national team level and the ranking of his have to do with his worthiness to play in your country? Under the set of rules Dyke proposed, someone like Wanyama wouldn't qualify for a work permit, unless someone paid ten million for him, so the big clubs can have another advantage. If their problem is the progress of British players being blocked, then they should focus on providing incentives for clubs to sign players with British passports under a certain age, not creating a bizarre system to arbitrarily limit the movement of foreign players. They are looking at the problem backwards

on the EU passport thing its not so much as being highly regarded as the FA literally has no choice, any attempt to limit eu players would have the fa coming down on them like a ton of bricks for breaking eu law on freedom of movement.

I understand that, but it is still silly that players from ~27 countries are free to move, while everyone else is filtered through this stupid and inefficient process. The proposed plan makes even less sense. I just want you to understand that under the system your FA are proposing, no Asian player (no one in this confederation is top-50) would be allowed to sign at any English club unless they cost ten million pound. What sense does that make? :lol:

 

Spain doesn't have this WP system and our league has a larger amount of domestic players in the top flight than the PL. The FA is looking in the wrong place.

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Is it just me or are the blogs that Ryder writes for ESPN far superior to his Chronicle articles? I meant they're not amazing or anything but there's a noticeable improvement from the primary school pish that goes in the paper. Weird.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30859855

 

Pearce may not be all that, but Mills is (and has always been) an untalented odious dickhead, on and off the field.

 

I quite like Pearce but you would've appreciated someone talking out about Pardew like that a couple of months ago though. It's tedious as fuck listening to pundits going on about how every single (British) manager is doing such a wonderful job.

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