Hughesy Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Better than Terry but not Rio. I think Sol had the pace and physical dominance that Rio has never had. That set him apart for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sol was never as quick as Rio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I thought Tony "Donkey" Adams was class as well tbf. One of my favourite bits of non-NUFC commentary is him scoring on the last day of the season, "put through by Steve Bould, WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT?!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sol was never as quick as Rio. He was much much quicker. When he was at spuds there wasn't anyone who could beat him for pace, he was a beast but put on too much muscle which slowed him down. These days you'd have him keep that pace instead of strength but back then ferdinands & Shearers were all the rage and doing the biz. Few injuries later in his arsenal career and his game was totally different. Early sol was amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 That's more of an irrelevant comment than an unpopular opinion, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I thought Tony "Donkey" Adams was class as well tbf. One of my favourite bits of non-NUFC commentary is him scoring on the last day of the season, "put through by Steve Bould, WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT?!" Yes, I fucking would, as our net bristles for the 4th time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I despise Ian Holloway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sol was never as quick as Rio. He was much much quicker. When he was at spuds there wasn't anyone who could beat him for pace, he was a beast but put on too much muscle which slowed him down. These days you'd have him keep that pace instead of strength but back then ferdinands & Shearers were all the rage and doing the biz. Few injuries later in his arsenal career and his game was totally different. Early sol was amazing. I keep reading that on here. How does muscle slow you down? A sports scientist would laugh at that comment. Sol was strong and quick, but never Rio quick. Prime Rio had absolutely fantastic pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Sol in his prime at Spurs was lightning quick, Rio never had that kind of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I keep reading that on here. How does muscle slow you down? A sports scientist would laugh at that comment. Sol was strong and quick, but never Rio quick. Prime Rio had absolutely fantastic pace. I'm sure you know improved muscle mass doesn't always mean improved muscle strength. Though, you're right in a way, if a footballer puts on muscle mass and doesn't improve explosive strength then their coaches want hung. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I agree with Ronaldo here. Sol wasn't really pacey at least to prime Rio level, it was more his strength combined with a certain degree of pace that slowed his opponents down. If a man that size is running and getting physical he's going to slow you down that's basically what Sol did. As well as he's fantastically accurate recovery challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'd love to know when we can next expect to have a winger score 12 goals in a season out of nothing and create f*** knows how many chances per game. Late to the party I know, but yeah, at an average of about twenty yards out. Check out Sewelly's vid for the evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sol used to go on some cracking runs out of defence in his younger years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Ledley King and Woodgate were both better than Sol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Ledley King and Woodgate were both better than Sol. See I could compare Woody but Ledley King. ......nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I thought Tony "Donkey" Adams was class as well tbf. He was . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Cabaye, Anita, Marveaux, Debuchy, Ben Arfa and Santon are all pretty good looking chaps. Moussa has something about him.... better looking than Debuchy at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 He's awful at set pieces full stop. Rest of his game (minus the horrible lack of pace) is pretty Rolls Royce, obviously. He's not good in the air in general. Horrible weaknesses to have as a CB. The rest of his game can be A*. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Last season he was only okay until the s*** hit the fan, but I'm ecstatic that he's staying and don't have any major worries about him being an asset for us again. He actually played far better after his 'personal problems' were revealed in January. Yep. I was saying week after week that Colo was playing poorly. Nobody was having it. Blinkered on this site to the obvious. Colo has a lot of fundamental weaknesses but compensates for it with his many positive attributes. However, with such flaws there's always the chance they will get exposed. And there are many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I thought he had a good season all in all and was superb coming back from injury at the end. He made a few errors but nothing you couldn't forgive due to how f***ing great we were at conceding possession and inviting pressure. You've got to protect Colo a little bit by not playing too high a line and partnering him with a dominant header of the ball. One of the reasons Mapou probably won't start with everyone fit. Almost bang on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yep i hate Cabaye and Tiote as a partnership. If we are going 4-4-2 and we do get the necessary targets to make it work i want Cabaye and Sissoko as often as possible. Nah. 4-4-2 with wide men that actually want to attack and preferrably with some width Cabaye-Tiote sitting deep with the wide men pushed up a bit and a striker dropping deep a bit to link things. Lovely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yep i hate Cabaye and Tiote as a partnership. If we are going 4-4-2 and we do get the necessary targets to make it work i want Cabaye and Sissoko as often as possible. Nah. 4-4-2 with wide men that actually want to attack and preferrably with some width Cabaye-Tiote sitting deep with the wide men pushed up a bit and a striker dropping deep a bit to link things. Lovely. Recipe for disaster that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Rio is one of the best CB's of his generation - period. In the last 10/15 years, he would be competing for the top 10 imo. Fine defender. Even though his legs have gone he's still a fabulous CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I agree with Ronaldo here. Sol wasn't really pacey at least to prime Rio level, it was more his strength combined with a certain degree of pace that slowed his opponents down. If a man that size is running and getting physical he's going to slow you down that's basically what Sol did. As well as he's fantastically accurate recovery challenges. Disagree a bit. Sol had a bit of that sprinter explosiveness. Over 10 or so metres, in his prime he was faster than Rio over that distance. Rio probably had a higher top speed and faster in a longer foot race or from a running start. And that muscle mass thing is a myth too tbh, especially for taller players. Even David Rudisha is a very strong lad. 100-400m sprinters tend to be noticeably muscular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest micky_123 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Rio is one of the best CB's of his generation - period. In the last 10/15 years, he would be competing for the top 10 imo. Fine defender. Even though his legs have gone he's still a fabulous CB. Totally agree with this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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