Guest palnese Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Women are better than men at football. There was a lass at Kings Cross on the phone making this argument at the weekend, or more specifically that the game was better to watch because 'they think about it more, and the tackles are still hard but they're more beautiful'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Cleverly misplaces passes all the time. His decision making is poor. He's not quick and seems to lack position. He gives the ball away far too much. All of that is utter nonsense. Re watch your games. Even in pre season the guy mis places passes all the time. It infuriates me because he's gonna be in the World Cup team and he shouldn't be playing like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think Carrick is a ridiculously underrated footballer. Yup. He's been very good for a number of years now and I can't work out why it's only been the past 12-18 months the media/public at large have cottoned to this fact. He's had some completely unjustified criticism in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think Carrick is a ridiculously underrated footballer. Yup. He's been very good for a number of years now and I can't work out why it's only been the past 12-18 months the media/public at large have cottoned to this fact. He's had some completely unjustified criticism in the past. I absolutely love watching Carrick, any player like that really. Something fantastic about the way he passes the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Cleverly misplaces passes all the time. His decision making is poor. He's not quick and seems to lack position. He gives the ball away far too much. All of that is utter nonsense. Re watch your games. Even in pre season the guy mis places passes all the time. It infuriates me because he's gonna be in the World Cup team and he shouldn't be playing like that. I don't need to rewatch anything. Cleverleys pass success rate with us is 91% since his first game, which is higher than Scholes. Constantly misplacing passes doesn't get you a pass success rate of 91%. Pretty sure the only midfielder who played 20 games or more last season who bettered Cleverleys passing success was Dembele. Also, your comment about pre-season is completely off the mark. He's always phenomenal in pre-season. When he came into our first team he was our best player in pre-season against Barcelona (arguably the best player on the pitch) and the next game he came on against City in the 3-2 win at the Community Shield. Cleverley changed that game as well. You're wrong about Cleverley, simple as. He's a very good footballer, is going to get better and will prove any doubters wrong. I'm sure of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Cleverly misplaces passes all the time. His decision making is poor. He's not quick and seems to lack position. He gives the ball away far too much. All of that is utter nonsense. Re watch your games. Even in pre season the guy mis places passes all the time. It infuriates me because he's gonna be in the World Cup team and he shouldn't be playing like that. I don't need to rewatch anything. Cleverleys pass success rate with us is 91% since his first game, which is higher than Scholes. Constantly misplacing passes doesn't get you a pass success rate of 91%. Pretty sure the only midfielder who played 20 games or more last season who bettered Cleverleys passing success was Dembele. Also, your comment about pre-season is completely off the mark. He's always phenomenal in pre-season. When he came into our first team he was our best player in pre-season against Barcelona (arguably the best player on the pitch) and the next game he came on against City in the 3-2 win at the Community Shield. Cleverley changed that game as well. You're wrong about Cleverley, simple as. He's a very good footballer, is going to get better and will prove any doubters wrong. I'm sure of it. White Djemba-Djemba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Tiote has our highest pass completion rate and you see how the folks of NO thnk of his passing ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I'd say Djemba-Djemba was looking at a 19% pass success rate. Seen by Fergie as Roy Keanes successor you know. Was a good call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Carrick is a great player, his problem is he struggles when put under pressure and doesn't have the agility to escape. I have always considered him the English Fernando Gago because of this. Great range of passing, can control a game with ease but put him under pressure and you can get quite a bit of joy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Obertan is absolue fucking garbage, the worst player i have ever seen at NUFC. Technically he has several good attributes, however his complete lack of heart - in fact fuck that it's outright cowardice makes him a nothing footballer. Cleverley not a bad player, just not a very good one. Not Man United standard imo, if they want to keep winning the league. We'll probably pay £4m for him in a few years having learned fuck all from your man mentioned above. And Alan Smith, Nicky butt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Same is true somewhat of Alonso. Except he's truly devastating when he's not being harassed for 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Davide Santon was the worst first team performer last season. Coloccini was poor most of the season too. Being slow and weak in the air is such a disadvantage to us. Mentally he's miles ahead of anyone else at the back and most of the league - when he's on form. When he's poor, he's a shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Same is true somewhat of Alonso. Except he's truly devastating when he's not being harassed for 90 minutes. True, probably why he struggles in The Clasico's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Oh and Cisse was terrible last season and it was mostly his own fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Davide Santon was the worst first team performer last season. Coloccini was poor most of the season too. Being slow and weak in the air is such a disadvantage to us. Mentally he's miles ahead of anyone else at the back and most of the league - when he's on form. When he's poor, he's a shambles. He was our best defender over the first few months, easily. That award goes to Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Davide Santon was the worst first team performer last season. Pretty much hopeless as a defender IMO. I think if he is to have a future here he should be tried somewhere in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Davide Santon was the worst first team performer last season. Pretty much hopeless as a defender IMO. I think if he is to have a future here he should be tried somewhere in midfield. Not really. He generally wins his one on ones. He needs coaching but hopeless is well wide of the mark I'm not saying he is talentless, but he has brainfarts, I don't think you can train brainfarts out of someone, coaches have been trying to do that with Bramble his entire career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 He was alright in the first month or so. Crap for the rest of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 He was alright in the first month or so. Crap for the rest of it. You could probably exclusively post in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Cisse crap. Colo crap. Santon crap. Who isn't crap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Santon's out of position a ton. He JOGS back, when he needs to sprint back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Santon's out of position a ton. He JOGS back, when he needs to sprint back. to be fair this did actually happen a fair few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Cisse crap. Colo crap. Santon crap. Who isn't crap? Krul. None of the above are crap either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 thats cus he does all of jonas' attacking for him. how u can say "he was the worst first team performer last season" knowing how useless some of the others were is ridiculous. Perfect thread for that opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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