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Club home grown player isn't he?

 

We'll be pushing for Europe next season and so will need to have some of these going forward.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

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Care to explain why this is a anything but a shite decision?

 

31 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Trippier, Krafth, Manquillo, Lewis and Dummett will be our full-backs as of 1st June. You'd presume one will just be replaced like for like, as happened in January with Lewis/Targett. 

 

If that’s the case why are we keeping the shittest and most injury prone one of those five?

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7 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Club home grown player isn't he?

 

We'll be pushing for Europe next season and so will need to have some of these going forward.

 

 

 

 

Completely irrelevant for a one year deal. We don’t need to worry about that next season which is the one he’ll be sticking around for.

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3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Completely irrelevant for a one year deal. We don’t need to worry about that next season which is the one he’ll be sticking around for.

 

Well I think it's a one year deal initially and based on how that goes they'll determine whether to extend with him, because he'll be useful going forward, or whether it would be preferable to use some of the younger players coming through instead in those club home grown slots.

 

 

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"Dreadful" and "brainless". Don't say that NO doesn't love an overreaction :lol:

 

I personally didn't see the value in renewing his contract, but Howe obviousky does and he will have his reasons. Either way it's a pretty inconsequential decision.

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Can't believe the reaction :lol:

 

He's an experienced club home grown player they want to have another look at over next season, because he's been injured most of this one.

 

He can cover as a left back, centre back in a two, centre back in a three, and as a left wing back.

 

After seeing what Howe did with Krafth, it's not impossible that he could be a serviceable squad player if and when injuries start to tally up.

 

The key thing is ultimately that club home grown status though.

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2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

"Dreadful" and "brainless". Don't say that NO doesn't love an overreaction :lol:

 

I personally didn't see the value in renewing his contract, but Howe obviousky does and he will have his reasons. Either way it's a pretty inconsequential decision.

Aye, it's either we keep on someone like Dummett as cover, or we go out and buy someone to fulfil the exact same, part time role. Either or it's pretty inconsequential like you say :lol:

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9 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:
42 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Trippier, Krafth, Manquillo, Lewis and Dummett will be our full-backs as of 1st June. You'd presume one will just be replaced like for like, as happened in January with Lewis/Targett. 

 

If that’s the case why are we keeping the shittest and most injury prone one of those five?

 

Can't argue that he's injury prone but I'd argue/insist that he's better than Lewis (who's done absolutely nothing for us), plus he can play in more than one position. And like I suggested in the other post, he's an important character in the dressing room (that's according to the manager).

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On the one hand, I'm reading, he isn't very good. But on the other, he's always injured so he won't play anyway.

 

Sounds to me like his two biggest weaknesses cancel each out, so I don't know what people are complaining about.

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9 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

He's a reliable defender providing 3rd choice cover in 2 positions. We're not realistically going to replace our entire squad and backup in the summer.

 

 

Reliable, he plays about 1 game a season and he’s utter shit :lol:

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Just now, Yorkie said:

 

Can't argue that he's injury prone but I'd argue/insist that he's better than Lewis (who's done absolutely nothing for us), plus he can play in more than one position. And like I suggested in the other post, he's an important character in the dressing room (that's according to the manager).

 

I don’t know why we’d keep either of them. Both Championship standard and should see the door. We had an opportunity to get rid of one for free and should have taken it.

 

Buy two youngsters with the ability to improve with the club, or bring an experienced older head in who is also on a free in the summer.

 

When we need back up next season, he’ll either not be available through injury (as we’ve encountered several times in the past few years) or, he’ll be torn to bits because he’s not good enough.

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5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Can't believe the reaction :lol:

 

He's an experienced club home grown player they want to have another look at over next season, because he's been injured most of this one.

 

He can cover as a left back, centre back in a two, centre back in a three, and as a left wing back.

 

After seeing what Howe did with Krafth, it's not impossible that he could be a serviceable squad player if and when injuries start to tally up.

 

The key thing is ultimately that club home grown status though.


‘another look at’ :lol:

 

We normally get to see him half a season if we’re lucky and he’s never improved the whole time.

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Just now, Optimistic Nut said:


‘another look at’ :lol:

 

We normally get to see him half a season if we’re lucky and he’s never improved the whole time.

 

My goodness :lol:

 

This is going to be the new coaching teams first full pre season at the club. If it doesn't improve things for him fitness wise and he is still never available then he will leave after next year.

 

Howe says in the article that he appreciates his professionalism and influence and so they are giving him an opportunity under their stewardship to see if they can get something more out of him, especially as he is a club home grown player that could be useful over the next few years if Europe is a possibility.

 

Why on Earth is this getting under people's skin so much?!

 

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I just don't see the point in recruiting a replacement (for this particular role) when he's already here and there's basically no risk to the move. And I really think the character thing is underestimated. There'll be a good reason why every single manager Dummett has played under clearly loves him. 

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Again with this stuff, I just think we clearly have a competent staff now - a competent staff that spend their whole working days thinking about and analysing these things, seeing Dummet when we don't. I think there's a better chance they're going to make a good decision than me or anyone here.

 

Instinctively I'm pretty neutral about it. He's obviously not great and is injury prone, but he's alright. Don't really give a shit apart from it's nice to have him as a geordie (and I've played against him so I like having him there as a claim to fame when I meet toon fans over here).

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