Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Steve McClaren appointed as head coach and Bas Dost our first signing. Yeah, we'll definitely be heading places... Completely agree, fat head comes out spouting absolute garbage about qualifying for the Champions League and if anyone was in any kind of doubt he was talking out of his hind quaters he backs it up by appointing a manger fresh from being peddled from a Championship club and potentially signing a striker that plays like it's the first time he's seen s football for three quaters of the season. Nice one Mike, I bet Arsenal are shiteing themselves! I don't quite think that his sacking at Derby gives anybody the right to write off his entire career. As for the part regarding Dost how on Earth can anybody write off a player that hasn't even put his toe inside our stadium yet? Perez must have been a disgraceful signing too, as he was signed from a 2nd division Spanish team? By watching him play football. So you have regularly watched him play for Wolfsburg? Not highlights on a YouTube video, the full 90 minute game to understand his play? I'm sure I could create a clip of Ronaldo looking shit, doesn't mean nothing. Give the fucking bloke a chance for crying out loud, Leicester signed Vardy from Fleetwood - he now has an England cap. Utterly embarrassing from Leicester, unreal, how dare they sign a player of such poor quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I want Bas Dost, Dost, Dost. I want that buggery risky Bas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Give it up man. There are at least four people (Felipao, The Prophet, Mole and me) on here who claim they have seen plenty of him (more than you no doubt) who think he has hit a purple patch and is a pretty average player, almost certainly not good enough for the top end of the Premier League, which is where we apparently aim to compete and not worth what we would likely have to pay with his stock being as high as it is ever going to be. I am yet to see anybody say they have seen him play loads and suggest the opposite. Your blind hope argument doesn't really carry much weight I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I can't believe so many people are kicking off about a player we're probably not going to sign, as our record for signing people for actual fees when they don't have release clauses is horrendous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I like how the argument is supplement by completely irrelevant and intangible points. This player you have seen is rubbish, I bet you didn't say that about a player you didn't see some other time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Give it up man. There are at least four people (Felipao, The Prophet, Mole and me) on here who claim they have seen plenty of him (more than you no doubt) who think he has hit a purple patch and is a pretty average player, almost certainly not good enough for the top end of the Premier League, which is where we apparently aim to compete and not worth what we would likely have to pay with his stock being as high as it is ever going to be. I am yet to see anybody say they have seen him play loads and suggest the opposite. Your blind hope argument doesn't really carry much weight I'm afraid. He scored over 40 goals in 60 appearances with Heerenveen over two seasons. 20 in 28 appearances with Wolfsburg. Three seasons of absolute luck! What a complete terrible player he must be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Give it up man. There are at least four people (Felipao, The Prophet, Mole and me) on here who claim they have seen plenty of him (more than you no doubt) who think he has hit a purple patch and is a pretty average player, almost certainly not good enough for the top end of the Premier League, which is where we apparently aim to compete and not worth what we would likely have to pay with his stock being as high as it is ever going to be. I am yet to see anybody say they have seen him play loads and suggest the opposite. Your blind hope argument doesn't really carry much weight I'm afraid. I'm not claiming to know anything about this guy, but he has a decent goal record by all accounts both at Heerenveen, and Wolfsburg, he may not be the greatest player, but we need options, so someone who has his record shouldn't be sniffed at. I find it funny how someone who what's to be positive and and look forward on a potential signing gets shot down, rather then have the mind numbing tedious outlook of being negative at every freaking aspect of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Olly Bernard's thoughts; http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/players-thinking-twice-joining-newcastle-9485041 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Bas Dost is one of those players who'd score goals with good players around him putting them on a plate. Hard not to feel he'd be a waste of a shirt most of the time in our team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 His scoring record for Heeereennnerrvvvenn is great, but Eredivisie scoring doesn't exactly translate to PL scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Olly Bernard man, what a tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Give it up man. There are at least four people (Felipao, The Prophet, Mole and me) on here who claim they have seen plenty of him (more than you no doubt) who think he has hit a purple patch and is a pretty average player, almost certainly not good enough for the top end of the Premier League, which is where we apparently aim to compete and not worth what we would likely have to pay with his stock being as high as it is ever going to be. I am yet to see anybody say they have seen him play loads and suggest the opposite. Your blind hope argument doesn't really carry much weight I'm afraid. He scored over 40 goals in 60 appearances with Heerenveen over two seasons. 20 in 28 appearances with Wolfsburg. Three seasons of absolute luck! What a complete terrible player he must be! Sigh. I've never said he was a terrible player. Just not good enough for the level we are/should be aiming for, as well as not at all being the type of forward I would like Newcastle United to build their attacking play around. Not sure what is so difficult to comprehend here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Give it up man. There are at least four people (Felipao, The Prophet, Mole and me) on here who claim they have seen plenty of him (more than you no doubt) who think he has hit a purple patch and is a pretty average player, almost certainly not good enough for the top end of the Premier League, which is where we apparently aim to compete and not worth what we would likely have to pay with his stock being as high as it is ever going to be. I am yet to see anybody say they have seen him play loads and suggest the opposite. Your blind hope argument doesn't really carry much weight I'm afraid. He scored over 40 goals in 60 appearances with Heerenveen over two seasons. 20 in 28 appearances with Wolfsburg. Three seasons of absolute luck! What a complete terrible player he must be! Sigh. I've never said he was a terrible player. Just not good enough for the level we are/should be aiming for, as well as not at all being the type of forward I would like Newcastle United to build their attacking play around. Not sure what is so difficult to comprehend here. It must be utterly terrible to build your attacking play around a striker who scores goals. We'd be better finding a player who links up the play, runs around, passes and moves and scores 0 goals a season. Not good enough for the level we are? :lol: He plays for Wolfsburg, a Champions League team who most recently won a trophy. He'll be joining a team who survived relegation by the skin of their teeth. We're not going to sign Messi or Ronaldo this year I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). True, summer is the real test imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: Wolfsburg were on TV absolutely loads last season, BT have pretty comprehensive Bundesliga andEuropa League coverage. Not exactly far fetched to suggest people have seen him play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 If we do end up getting him, we better be adding wide players who can cross accurately, sharpish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 First and foremost I'm discounting his record in the Eredivisie because you could probably train a spider monkey to score twenty a season in in that League. What I've seen for Wolfsburg is a clumsy, cumbersome target man that got injured, looked poor, went bezerk for a handful of games, then resorted back to playing like a bull in a China shop. He'd probably score goals for a direct team that bang the ball into the eighteen yard area at every opportunity, but Dost serviced by Gouffran, Ameobi and Obertan sounds hideous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Except we have seen him kick a ball unlike you. You're beyond help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Desperate for us to sign Dost now, and for him to bang in like 30 goals in his first season Boy would I laud it over Parky and unbelievable in particular! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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