Yaron Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 With all the 50M spent. the squad had to have an overhaul. the deadwood is still here and i fear the 4 new signings won't be enough.its no relgation squad,but not a 8th place squad.another medicore 11-14 season imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 With all the 50M spent. the squad had to have an overhaul. the deadwood is still here and i fear the 4 new signings won't be enough.its no relgation squad,but not a 8th place squad.another medicore 11-14 season imo That would do me as long as the football is better and we try in the cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 With all the 50M spent. the squad had to have an overhaul. the deadwood is still here and i fear the 4 new signings won't be enough.its no relgation squad,but not a 8th place squad.another medicore 11-14 season imo mcclaren said he doesn't expect 8th this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-feels-mike-ashley-9905418?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter This mong will end up on the clubs board won't he ryder? Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If we get a centre half I'll be totally happy with this window Absolutely, if it was someone like Abdennour then it's a excellent window IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. This seems a tad negative IMO and, if I'm picking it up right, overconfident in your belief about Cashley's deliberate negative intent. That is being seen to try and make a go of the club, but just tipping his cap at it really; because we don't like him... Personally, I'd need a fair bit of evidence to buy-in to that level of paranoia. From the outside looking in, we've made some cracking signings. Doubt Real Madrid are going to be depressed about missing out on any of them, but I assume that is because we are where we are. Not because we are pitching too low/being half-arsed. I also think, having made the signings and appointed a former national coach, that we are now in a better position to sign a top rank CB. Fingers crossed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Our first 4 games were always gona be hard we've got to look at performances at this stage and see what the squad looks like on Sep 2nd before we can judge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. This seems a tad negative IMO and, if I'm picking it up right, overconfident in your belief about Cashley's deliberate negative intent. That is being seen to try and make a go of the club, but just tipping his cap at it really; because we don't like him... Personally, I'd need a fair bit of evidence to buy-in to that level of paranoia. From the outside looking in, we've made some cracking signings. Doubt Real Madrid are going to be depressed about missing out on any of them, but I assume that is because we are where we are. Not because we are pitching too low/being half-arsed. I also think, having made the signings and appointed a former national coach, that we are now in a better position to sign a top rank CB. Fingers crossed... A tad? If we had of spent 100 million htt would have said we should have spent 200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What the hell have Appliances Online got to do with us buying risky, unproven players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I worry that we've spent a decent wedge and bar Gini every signing looks like a total punt while all the old weaknesses are still there. Just shows how bad things were allowed to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't think we can criticise the outlay of players too much (providing no more are leaving to fund for them), but HTT is absolutely right about the type of players we have brought in, players with potential but completely unproven at this level, and even more so about the manager. You can also question if how the money has been spent was the best possible use, with the defence once again severely neglected. It's a step in the right direction compared to recent years, but it's also a missed opportunity in a way as you sense more could and should have been done. This time though, it's more the decision making letting us down than the (lack of) funding. If things stay as they are, I expect us to be solid midtable at best, which is decent considering where we're coming from but disappointing considering where we should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't think we can criticise the outlay of players too much (providing no more are leaving to fund for them), but HTT is absolutely right about the type of players we have brought in, players with potential but completely unproven at this level, and even more so about the manager. You can also question if how the money has been spent was the best possible use, with the defence once again severely neglected. It's a step in the right direction compared to recent years, but it's also a missed opportunity in a way as you sense more could and should have been done. This time though, it's more the decision making letting us down than the (lack of) funding. If things stay as they are, I expect us to be solid midtable at best, which is decent considering where we're coming from but disappointing considering where we should have been. I think mcclaren has made the clubs position clear in so much that he expects to have a quality squad in three windows time. Hes also said he doesn't expect top 8 this year. Trying to see it from his/their point of view, they probably want a safe season if you like and bring more quality in next year with the new sky money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. Bit harsh with this post tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bada Bing Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think we'll probably finish 10th or 11th this season. The quality of the squad has improved a fair bit but if we're honest, this 50m is only going to get us to an acceptable standard (excluding defence) rather than really pushing on and challenging the top 8, such was the overall decline. But still, there's a lot more to be pleased about than not, so there's a welcome change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 There's been far too much damage done in the Pardew era, he alienated the genuine quality we had and stuck with Cloggers. We're now in a position of having a lot of deadwood and it was never going to be fixed overnight. I do think we missed an opportunity to get in a real decent head coach but McClaren is a lot of rungs up the ladder from Pardew and I'll give him a chance. I think we've bought riskily again and it could very well backfire but I'm more concerned at our inability to shift players like Gouffran and Riviere. If we can't trim the fat Ashley won't want to pay wages for decent replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What players who are proven at this level should we have signed instead? As far as being able to get rid of dead wood, most of them are out of contract next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Quite a few on here thrive on negativity. We could win the league and some would still moan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Quite a few on here thrive on negativity. We could win the league and some would still moan. I doubt that very much, that would only happen if we won it for 3 or 4 seasons in a row, i i doubt that will happen any time soon like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. Bit harsh with this post tbf. Bull s***, he is a coward who is trying to deflect massive criticism of him and his regime at NUFC. The money spent is too little too late. We are not fasttracking ourselves up the league with this spending, if anything we are standing still. My own opinion is that we aren't even doing that, because as a squad we are nowhere near equipped enough. The players may all have potential, but I guarantee even in the age of the internet 90% of our fans no nowt about our signings. We have a manager or coach who was sacked by a Championship side and who has failed badly in 4 of his 6 jobs. Yes he did great at Boro and and Twente, but in general he's the wally with the brolly and this is from someone who rates him and likes him and hopes he succeeds. 50m spent and McClaren isn't progress, its simply a side step. Progress would be someone like Vieira or Tuchel and 100m with proven players signed. Don't be fooled man. We should be thankful to the Ashley Out guys because without them it would be either Pardew and Carver or Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Made a statement? Had he appointed an exciting manager, sacked off the dead wood and spent 100m that would be a statement. The players we have bought are not established players, they are basically potential and risky deals. McClaren is a steady eddy, an average coach who won't take this club to any great heights. And we all know the only reason for all of this is because of AO.com. Bit harsh with this post tbf. Bull s***, he is a coward who is trying to deflect massive criticism of him and his regime at NUFC. The money spent is too little too late. We are not fasttracking ourselves up the league with this spending, if anything we are standing still. My own opinion is that we aren't even doing that, because as a squad we are nowhere near equipped enough. The players may all have potential, but I guarantee even in the age of the internet 90% of our fans no nowt about our signings. We have a manager or coach who was sacked by a Championship side and who has failed badly in 4 of his 6 jobs. Yes he did great at Boro and and Twente, but in general he's the wally with the brolly and this is from someone who rates him and likes him and hopes he succeeds. 50m spent and McClaren isn't progress, its simply a side step. Progress would be someone like Vieira or Tuchel and 100m with proven players signed. Don't be fooled man. We should be thankful to the Ashley Out guys because without them it would be either Pardew and Carver or Carver. When did Vieira become an 'exciting' manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "I guarantee even in the age of the internet 90% of our fans no nowt about our signings." Absolute tripe. Most will have heard of or seen all of them, bar Mbemba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Nope. You're on a roll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 So that's you and HTT and combined you make up for 90% of our fan base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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