timeEd32 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Vardy would probably have less than four goals in our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Vardy would probably have less than four goals in our team. He'd be on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 He'd be on loan at northampton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Vardy would probably have less than four goals in our team. So our top striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-eyeing-up-two-10553888 Add Shelvey and Matip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/625339/Crystal-Palace-record-bid-Newcastle-target-Real-Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Love the part where it says While Newcastle are considering offering a reduced few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He'd be Batshuayit crazy to come here like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I find the faith in Sissoko as a CM hilarious. 3 managers have been here, he's started as CM..... has he ever? It's not going to happen. Says more about the managers tbh, the fact his international manager has more faith in him as a CM says it all. Not to mention he was a CM before he came here. Thought Deschamps plays him wide right too? Definitely did in the World Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 You don't need to be Guardiola to realise that Sissoko hasn't got the technical ability to play cm. Then again, neither do any of or central midfield players, apart from perhaps Wijnaldum. Sissoko can do more damage from a wide area, cutting inside than he could ever do from a central position IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He'd be Batshuayit crazy to come here like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Demarai Gray at Birmingham has a £3.75 million release clause apparently. We should be all over that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 You don't need to be Guardiola to realise that Sissoko hasn't got the technical ability to play cm. Then again, neither do any of or central midfield players, apart from perhaps Wijnaldum. Sissoko can do more damage from a wide area, cutting inside than he could ever do from a central position IMO. A good manager would make Sissoko at a CM work. His skill set is not too disimilar to Keiran Dyer's and Sir Bobby (a proper manager) made that prosper, albeit next to Speedo a class DM. Good managers get Aaron Hughes looking a decent right back in the top half of the prem, or win champions leagues with Jerzy Dudek. They win the league with help from John O'Shea and Wes Brown. Both Sissoko and Wijnaldum would be highly effective CMs under decent managers (although not next to each other in a two). They should both start CM in a 433 with a decent DM between them - that should be our recruitment aim along with a solid scrappy stocky stab his own mum for the last Yorkshire pudding type CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 You don't need to be Guardiola to realise that Sissoko hasn't got the technical ability to play cm. Then again, neither do any of or central midfield players, apart from perhaps Wijnaldum. Sissoko can do more damage from a wide area, cutting inside than he could ever do from a central position IMO. A good manager would make Sissoko at a CM work. His skill set is not too disimilar to Keiran Dyer's and Sir Bobby (a proper manager) made that prosper, albeit next to Speedo a class DM. Good managers get Aaron Hughes looking a decent right back in the top half of the prem, or win champions leagues with Jerzy Dudek. They win the league with help from John O'Shea and Wes Brown. Both Sissoko and Wijnaldum would be highly effective CMs under decent managers (although not next to each other in a two). They should both start CM in a 433 with a decent DM between them - that should be our recruitment aim along with a solid scrappy stocky stab his own mum for the last Yorkshire pudding type CB. Completely agree, no reason they can't play CM. Wijnaldum in particular is basically playing there now, he just defends on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 With Mitro signed we would benefit from conventional wide players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 You don't need to be Guardiola to realise that Sissoko hasn't got the technical ability to play cm. Then again, neither do any of or central midfield players, apart from perhaps Wijnaldum. Sissoko can do more damage from a wide area, cutting inside than he could ever do from a central position IMO. A good manager would make Sissoko at a CM work. His skill set is not too disimilar to Keiran Dyer's and Sir Bobby (a proper manager) made that prosper, albeit next to Speedo a class DM. Good managers get Aaron Hughes looking a decent right back in the top half of the prem, or win champions leagues with Jerzy Dudek. They win the league with help from John O'Shea and Wes Brown. Both Sissoko and Wijnaldum would be highly effective CMs under decent managers (although not next to each other in a two). They should both start CM in a 433 with a decent DM between them - that should be our recruitment aim along with a solid scrappy stocky stab his own mum for the last Yorkshire pudding type CB. Find it hard to disagree with any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He's nothing at all like Dyer, though. Dyer at CM (as opposed to a more attacking role) worked because his fast feet, agility and boundless energy made him effective at hassling and winning the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Aye, don't get that comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Sissoko is all about power and pace where Dyer was as Ron described. Plus Dyer was a more intelligent player, his movement off the ball far superior as was his workrate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Sissoko is all about power and pace where Dyer was as Ron described. Plus Dyer was a more intelligent player, his movement off the ball far superior as was his workrate Dyer over Sissoko easily for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Sissoko is all about power and pace where Dyer was as Ron described. Plus Dyer was a more intelligent player, his movement off the ball far superior as was his workrate You wouldn't have read that view here back in the day when I first joined up. Dyer lamped in some fucking nightclub was one of the more popular threads from what I can remember. He was an utter prick mind, but also a key player in Bobby Robson's success here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He's nothing at all like Dyer, though. Dyer at CM (as opposed to a more attacking role) worked because his fast feet, agility and boundless energy made him effective at hassling and winning the ball. I said their skill sets were similar, not the same. Both could sprint the full length of the pitch with and without the ball, quicker than most other CMs they'd come up against. Both were unsuited to intricate short passing, but could get by in a team that wasn't totally possession based and could play the odd decent low cross when in wider channels. Both are weak in the air. Both are ropey (or at least less than convincing) at finishing. Both have a great set of lungs on them. Neither can shoot from outside the box. Dyer could harry and press, but so could Sissoko if trained. Neither are great tacklers, but could be effective as the applied pressure in a midfield press allowing a colleague to make the tackle. Like Dyer, Sissoko could sprint from CM and beyond the last man like an on-the-shoulder striker if he was trained and instructed to. Anyway, even if you disagree that they are similar, surely the underlying point remains true that a proper manager would make Sissoko work as a CM. Far worse players have been effective as CMs in decent premier league teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Does Sissoko want to do the dirty work of a CM is the biggest question. My gut says no and he'll always see himself as largely above it and want to play a position that demands less close physical work than that. He's probably best dribbling in wide areas too, as his close control isn't the best. Dyer's short passing was good, mind. As was his finishing when he got older. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Sissoko is all about power and pace where Dyer was as Ron described. Plus Dyer was a more intelligent player, his movement off the ball far superior as was his workrate You wouldn't have read that view here back in the day when I first joined up. Dyer lamped in some f***ing nightclub was one of the more popular threads from what I can remember. He was an utter prick mind, but also a key player in Bobby Robson's success here. It's a shame his injuries got worse during his later years here because he was a real difference maker when he managed to get on the pitch for a while. Not having the right person in charge of him would have only taken that so far though. That goal he scored away at Lisbon was one of my favourites, epic pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 You don't need to be Guardiola to realise that Sissoko hasn't got the technical ability to play cm. Then again, neither do any of or central midfield players, apart from perhaps Wijnaldum. Sissoko can do more damage from a wide area, cutting inside than he could ever do from a central position IMO. A good manager would make Sissoko at a CM work. His skill set is not too disimilar to Keiran Dyer's and Sir Bobby (a proper manager) made that prosper, albeit next to Speedo a class DM. Good managers get Aaron Hughes looking a decent right back in the top half of the prem, or win champions leagues with Jerzy Dudek. They win the league with help from John O'Shea and Wes Brown. Both Sissoko and Wijnaldum would be highly effective CMs under decent managers (although not next to each other in a two). They should both start CM in a 433 with a decent DM between them - that should be our recruitment aim along with a solid scrappy stocky stab his own mum for the last Yorkshire pudding type CB. Totally different to Dyer imho. I'm not Dyer's biggest fan but Sissoko isn't a patch on him. As for this desire to try him in CM, it's frankly bewildering. He's not a CM in a million years. He can't even manage the responsibility of RM in 9 games out of 10, let alone the greater responsibility of being in the middle of the park. A total non-starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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