AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. They might bid lower than the manager wants, lower than previously mentioned in discussion etc. I just don't believe they do it knowing it won't get accepted, there's no point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Was just thinking how well it went for the last relegation threatened club who signed an England international midfielder, Townsend & Remy in the January window to help keep them up. Very good! fwiw, all three of them scored against the mackems, so that's at least one monkey we might get off our back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. The findings of the lawsuit essentially boiled down to just the one thing, that the club intentionally mislead the public over the extent to which Keegan was involved/had a say in transfers. It wouldn't surprise me one bit what you say, that while chasing their own targets they'd have fucked around with a player Keegan fancied purely as a sop to him (Schweinsteiger anyone?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Was just thinking how well it went for the last relegation threatened club who signed an England international midfielder, Townsend & Remy in the January window to help keep them up. They were already relegated before they brought them in, they just couldn't accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Don't know what the deal with Jetro Willems is but I'd try a sneaky swap deal with SDJ: hopefully LDJ can being there can swing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Was just thinking how well it went for the last relegation threatened club who signed an England international midfielder, Townsend & Remy in the January window to help keep them up. They were already relegated before they brought them in, they just couldn't accept it. Same here, isnt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. The findings of the lawsuit essentially boiled down to just the one thing, that the club intentionally mislead the public over the extent to which Keegan was involved/had a say in transfers. It wouldn't surprise me one bit what you say, that while chasing their own targets they'd have fucked around with a player Keegan fancied purely as a sop to him (Schweinsteiger anyone?). Yeah, I don't doubt they do these dodgy things, I just don't think they do them for good PR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so fucking naive man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Was just thinking how well it went for the last relegation threatened club who signed an England international midfielder, Townsend & Remy in the January window to help keep them up. They were already relegated before they brought them in, they just couldn't accept it. Same here, isnt it? Course it isn't QPR were bottom on 14 points at this point in the season, that's hopeless no matter what you do (history shows its a impossible position). We're third bottom on 21 points, plenty of teams have gotten out of that. Point is QPR improved in January with those signings, but they were already too far gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 We're 2 point's adrift and some people are ready to just throw In the towel :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 kinda wish debuchy was a left back and wanted to rejoin.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian is spot on IMO. If we are making fake bids then we are doing a bad job of it since we have had three of them accepted, plus four in the summer and spending what 50m on them? Yes we hate Mike Ashley but let's not just make things up to suit an outdated narrative. We have spent money but it's still not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 We're 2 point's adrift and some people are ready to just throw In the towel :lol: I think it's clear that some people on here actually want us to go down due to some sort of delusion that it will get rid of Ashley/serve him right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. It was demonstrated that a loan signing had been made against Keegan's judgement and that this went against the role usually assigned to a club manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Assuming we just aren't going to get another two in on top of Townsend, would you rather we went for a forward or defender? It has to be a defender for me, we are still just one injury away from disaster at the back and if Townsend takes the left wing role then Perez is backup for Mitro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Assuming we just aren't going to get another two in on top of Townsend, would you rather we went for a forward or defender? It has to be a defender for me, we are still just one injury away from disaster at the back and if Townsend takes the left wing role then Perez is backup for Mitro Not sure - we lost 4 games across christmas 0-1.... had we had players capable of sticking the ball in the net more regularly, it could have been different. I don't think we'll ever have a very good defence - but if we can at least stick the chances away, we'll have a better chance of picking points up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If you score goals you can take pressure of your defence, if you continue to miss chances then that pressure becomes too much for the defence in the end. Our defence not being that good anyway makes it worse even still. Sign both, get a defender and a striker in, common sense won't prevail though, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 We're 2 point's adrift and some people are ready to just throw In the towel :lol: I think it's clear that some people on here actually want us to go down due to some sort of delusion that it will get rid of Ashley/serve him right. If anyone wants us to go down it's because these cunts deserve it. The owner, the 'board', some of the players and a big portion of the fans. It's difficult not to wish massive failure on all of them. Especially when you consider that watching us play Premier League football stopped being a positive experience years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Was just thinking how well it went for the last relegation threatened club who signed an England international midfielder, Townsend & Remy in the January window to help keep them up. They were already relegated before they brought them in, they just couldn't accept it. Aye but they didn't have a master motivator and psychological guru to guide them right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Assuming we just aren't going to get another two in on top of Townsend, would you rather we went for a forward or defender? It has to be a defender for me, we are still just one injury away from disaster at the back and if Townsend takes the left wing role then Perez is backup for Mitro Striker for me. The only reason I think Sunderland might avoid the drop is because they've got Defoe. A natural goal scorer like that wins games from nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 i think they'll banking on getting remy on loan in terms of a striker now personally, don't see much else happening on that front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian is spot on IMO. If we are making fake bids then we are doing a bad job of it since we have had three of them accepted, plus four in the summer and spending what 50m on them? Yes we hate Mike Ashley but let's not just make things up to suit an outdated narrative. We have spent money but it's still not working. I was referring to the past if you re-read my posts. As was everyone else unless the definition of "Myth" has changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian is spot on IMO. If we are making fake bids then we are doing a bad job of it since we have had three of them accepted, plus four in the summer and spending what 50m on them? Yes we hate Mike Ashley but let's not just make things up to suit an outdated narrative. We have spent money but it's still not working. I was referring to the past if you re-read my posts. As was everyone else unless the definition of "Myth" has changed. That's why it's outdated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts