Tiresias Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 May be controversial but thought Moyes did a good job at West Ham. If they wanted to get away from that style Lopetegui seemed the signing of someone who has heard spanish and not actually checked what kind of football he played. He's probably better than what he has showed there though, it always seems team assembled with muddled thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, MagMal said: Are his gardening leave payments about to finish from Chelsea?, he seemed to turn down a few opportunities and I always thought it was tied to his payout from them. They finished in October, I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, Tiresias said: May be controversial but thought Moyes did a good job at West Ham. If they wanted to get away from that style Lopetegui seemed the signing of someone who has heard spanish and not actually checked what kind of football he played. He's probably better than what he has showed there though, it always seems team assembled with muddled thinking. It's always the same problem though, they keep hiring managers who play a certain way and struggle to get out of the shit cycle. You only have to look at Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, Brighton, Ipswich to see you can be moderately successful whilst playing a decent style. The biggest problem West Ham face is their players adapting from one style to another and their recruitment strategy changing. West Ham now need to sign younger, more technical players, they can't rely on Antonio, Soucek, Coufal and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 They might need to deal with 12 months of pain, because Potter won't be able to change them over night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, STM said: They might need to deal with 12 months of pain, because Potter won't be able to change them over night. It's not going to be fixed with a magic wand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 How would it be controversial, Moyes did a great job overall from relegation mix to 6th and 7th place finishes and a European cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I dunno they have been fairly consistent in style for a while now, solid Moyes ball, not as negative as all that with lot of directness and some really good players at times, Moyes got them into europe, focused on that and did well in europe but diminished them in the league. They lost Rice, squad seemed bit diminished but Paqueta and Bowen have kept them with some threat. My defense of Moyes ends a bit there as did seem just to be slowly winding down somewhat regardless but Lopetgui hasn't really changed that, so I don't know if the players really have struggled to adapt or they're just a midtable team with midtable players who can have a good season but will rarely string them together. You're absolutely right, Potter given time could change their style and that could be positive, or they could continue with lucky dip transfer policy and end up with a very confused squad. They're still the team most likely to buy some extremely average player based on doing alright at the euros, see Fulkrug, and call that a transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Newintoon said: How would it be controversial, Moyes did a great job overall from relegation mix to 6th and 7th place finishes and a European cup. General consensus still seems to be he's a boring bad coach. I agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Decent gig for Potter and good move by West Ham. Potter will have some good players to work with. Think that will go well. Looks a really good fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Nice to see Potter back in management, good appointment for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Without knowing loads about him I hadn't expected Lopetegui to be such a disaster. My recollection is that Wolves fans were sad and angry when he decided it was pointless him staying there. Did well there and Sevilla... seemed a clear upgrade on Moyes. Hasty decision or just obviously a bad fit? Always feel for football managers to be a success the fit has to be right regardless of reputations. Never looked a good fit. That’s why we should never forget how lucky we are we landed Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 34 minutes ago, Newintoon said: How would it be controversial, Moyes did a great job overall from relegation mix to 6th and 7th place finishes and a European cup. If the people who watch a team every week hate a manager despite their league position, it's usually for a good reason. Remember, Pardew got us 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Potter will need time to build his side and flip a complete 180 on the Moyes/Lopetegui style. It likely won’t be a seamless transition, although a few of their players are already well matched for his system. If their fans remain patient they will have one of the best managers they could realistically attract, I think he’ll do very well there with time. Edited January 6 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Did they all hate him, I think I remember the whole stadium staying behind to sing his name and wish him well when he left at the end of the season, it obviously went a bit stale in the last season and he left at the right time but to say he didn’t do a great job overall would be ludicrous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Think that's a good appointment. I reckon he'll do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 SSN saying Everton are having a meeting about Dyche. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Can see it going wrong with potter mind good manager but the West ham lot are a funny bunch. They'll Probably be twisting on in a years time about needing to score more goals and needing to go route one. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 35 minutes ago, Stifler said: SSN saying Everton are having a meeting about Dyche. Will they get Moyes back ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Potters Chelsea money finally ran out then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Menace said: Potters Chelsea money finally ran out then? In January ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, Menace said: Potters Chelsea money finally ran out then? He must have had a helluva Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Robbie Keane new Ferencvaros boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, Fak said: Robbie Keane new Ferencvaros boss. Urggghhh who ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Lopetugi not actually been sacked yet has he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, Fak said: Robbie Keane new Ferencvaros boss. Just read he didn't feel safe in Ireland as he's been threatened as he used to work in Israel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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