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Leicester sacking Ranieri marks the day the game lost its soul

 

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Lost it's soul a long time ago tbh. Leicester winning the title last season was the kind of one-off fairytale we'll never see again, it's one of the reasons I've pretty much stopped watching Premier league games this season, seemed a fitting time to bow out.

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Very understandable decision.

 

One of football's big problems seem to be the notion that past moments of glory should entitle you to take part going forward. The same with Rooney now and Wenger to some degree as well.

 

There's also this strange idea that managers' are basically always mistreated when they're fired. It's the very nature of the job, very, very few of them are capable of improving their teams and clubs over an extended period of time. Clubs that choose to look elsewhere for progress, rather than stay with managers to be kind, hoping for things to turn around, shouldn't be criticized for it. They're cold-blooded businesses, there's no room for sentimentality or friendship if you want to keep moving. There are of course situations when patience run out too fast, but more often than not managers get sacked when all evidence points to them not being able to take the club forward. I think Ranieri has looked absolutely clueless this season. Add the sort of mystery surrounding their amazing form last season, and it's hard to see what ideas he wants to revert to, what in his methods is actually going to develop Leicester.

 

Like Hull and Swansea they should look for a progressive manager who's capable of developing the squad and get them playing football that pays off long-term, and not be blinded by experience. Perhaps going for someone like Wagner is a good idea.

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Really desperate move by Leicester and ultimately short term thinking. I'm not usually one for allowing managers to get away with blaming the players, but these are clearly extraordinary circumstances. After winning the title there was always going to be a bit of after the Lord Mayor's show attitude among the squad, ally that to the defence ageing and losing Kante, and you could understand the come down. I suppose the new manager bounce might save them if the players now pull their finger out, but this squad will provide the same problems for the new manager a few months down the line.

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There was such an obvious fallout between players and coach. The transfer window is over and it sucks that players have too much power, but the owners were basically volunteering to be relegated if they kept Ranieri. Is there any more loyalty left in football? Well you could say it was harsh given the miracle he performed, but there's also living in the past. Clearly it's all gone wrong and you can either do nothing about it, or make a tough decision. Relegation would undo a lot of good that the owners have done and it would've been crushing to see Ranieri at that moment anyway.

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If you support the sacking, then basically you are not in the camp of “you need a great manager to build up your club statue in long run aka the Ferguson works”.

 

No f***ing way.  What Leicester should do is the opposite.  Support the manager, flush out the rotten players after relegation, and let Ranieri to rebuild again.  Afterwards no players would disrespect Ranieri and thats the real beginning of long term success.

 

Does sacking Ranieri help to retain the players now? Obviously f***ing no. If thats the case, rebuild is the only option then why not let the one with most credit to do it? 

 

This is a very short-sighted sacking.  Exactly what we did to Sir Bobby and Leicester deserve to relegate and enter their dark era for this ridiculous decision.  Relegation is not the worst outcome.  Sinking without trace and direction is.

Depends if you think Ranieri is a great manager.

 

Letting Sir Bob go wan't the problem, getting the right replacement was.

This was SO true - Shepherd lacked the intelligence and charm to persuade SBR that there was still an important role for him at the club and the first duty of this should have been to recruit his successor...we may even have got Mourinho then..

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The outrage because of this man, driven by the same commentators in the media who loved telling us that we were lucky to have Pardew and were deluded for wanting him out btw.  It's a shame but disgraceful? Nah.  Are

Leicester just supposed to accept relegation?  Probably done this too late, he's clearly lost the players and a lot of Leicester fans wanted him gone.  Probably us more than most realise that fan opinions are usually bang on.

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If you support the sacking, then basically you are not in the camp of “you need a great manager to build up your club statue in long run aka the Ferguson works”.

 

No f***ing way.  What Leicester should do is the opposite.  Support the manager, flush out the rotten players after relegation, and let Ranieri to rebuild again.  Afterwards no players would disrespect Ranieri and thats the real beginning of long term success.

 

Does sacking Ranieri help to retain the players now? Obviously f***ing no. If thats the case, rebuild is the only option then why not let the one with most credit to do it? 

 

This is a very short-sighted sacking.  Exactly what we did to Sir Bobby and Leicester deserve to relegate and enter their dark era for this ridiculous decision.  Relegation is not the worst outcome.  Sinking without trace and direction is.

 

Letting Sir Bob go wan't the problem, getting the right replacement was.

 

Off topic.

 

I used to be of this school of thought. But I think a manager of Sir Bob's character and ability, would always maintain a top 6 side. As long as his health permitted we should've stuck with him. 15 odd years later i've realised how difficult it is for us to hire a manager of that quality. You let them ride it out long-term. Man Utd went a couple years finishing 3rd and not challenging in the CL but stuck with SAF. Finishing 4th, 3rd & 5th should've guaranteed Sir Bob years to rebuild. Unless you're a mega-club you just don't sack a manager of that ilk unless they've been given years to rebuild.

 

I believe Arsene for example has gotten too long in the tooth and should move on as the fans have lost all hope. And he's almost built them into Super club territory.

 

Back to Leicester, I hope they get relegated. Love it if Pearson or Pardew did it.

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There was such an obvious fallout between players and coach. The transfer window is over and it sucks that players have too much power, but the owners were basically volunteering to be relegated if they kept Ranieri. Is there any more loyalty left in football? Well you could say it was harsh given the miracle he performed, but there's also living in the past. Clearly it's all gone wrong and you can either do nothing about it, or make a tough decision. Relegation would undo a lot of good that the owners have done and it would've been crushing to see Ranieri at that moment anyway.

 

Certain managers have enough clout to remove these members from the squad and coaching staff.

 

Funny thing is the senior players at Leicester - Vardy, Drinkwater, Schmeichel, Huth & Morgan. Not sure how good any of them are.

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It was probably not avoidable, it's just really sad. Just a reminder of how the big bucks strip away anything from the game except an angry desperate scrabble for staying in the league.

 

There's the issue, the consequences of going down and not back up are so grave that clubs have to do almost anything in their power to avoid it.

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If Leicester suddenly start performing to a decent standard and pull away from the relegation places it will prove it was the correct decision to sack Ranieri.

 

I don't feel sorry for Ranieri. He'll always be remembered for winning the league with Leicester. He'll also get a massive pay off to go with all the other millions he's made over the years. For whatever reason it hasn't worked out this season.

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