The Managerial Merry Go Round™ - Postecoglu told to rack off by Spurs

[Turnbull2000]

So he despised Newcastle and the fans before the Saudi takeover then.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, STM said:

I really like Thomas Frank but in order for him to succeed at Spurs, I suspect he will need 2+ years and I'm not sure he gets that.

 

They will be much tougher to beat with Frank.

 

I think he'll do well there eventually, but like every other Spurs manager will have to contend with Levy's knife hovering at his back. 

[Mike]

3 minutes ago, alexf said:

Holy hell, I really don't want to go looking for that article or give the mail any clicks, but I am curious to what basis he could possibly form for that argument 

 

Someone please just link it so I can read it and scream.

[JUICE690]

Just now, TRon said:

 

I think he'll do well there eventually, but like every other Spurs manager will have to contend with Levy's knife hovering at his back. 

Long time Spurs supporting friend says Levy is stepping down (or has been asked to step down).

[gbandit]

There have been rumours of that for years. Levy would only ever do that if he was getting an amazing deal to be bought out. He’s not going to step away unless someone offers more than it’s worth 

[JUICE690]

Yeah, fuck knows. He seemed convinced thing were different this time though. *alan partridge shug*

[Kazzie]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7268389/OLIVER-HOLT-truth-Steve-Bruce-good-Newcastle-not-way-round.html

 

Fans are missing the target... the truth is that Steve Bruce is too good for Newcastle, not the other way round

    Newcastle United will be one of the most compelling stories of the next season
    Mike Ashley allowed Rafa Benitez, Ayoze Perez and Salomon Rondon to leave 
    Fans deluded themselves that Jose Mourinho or Eddie Howe might take the job
    They greeted Steve Bruce's appointment as their new manager with dismay 
    The truth is that Bruce is too good for Newcastle, not the other way round 

By OLIVER HOLT

It is apparent already, even with the start of the new Premier League season still almost three weeks away, that Newcastle United will be one of the most compelling stories of the nine months that lie ahead. 

Not in a good way, obviously. Compelling like one of those videos of a car on black ice, sliding down a hill towards traffic in a snowstorm. Bystanders watch. They know the crash is coming.

Newcastle are already on that hill. They started rolling down it when the owner, Mike Ashley, allowed Rafa Benitez to leave the club. 
Steve Bruce was appointed as Newcastle's new manager last week which was met with dismay

Steve Bruce was appointed as Newcastle's new manager last week which was met with dismay and when he sold Ayoze Perez to Leicester City, who are the kind of team a club with Newcastle's support base should be blowing out of the water. 

Salomon Rondon, Newcastle's best player last season when he was on loan from West Brom, was allowed to move too.

All the classic early signs of trouble are there: supporters refusing to renew their season tickets, lack of investment, a protracted and inept takeover bid, fans planning a stadium boycott, dissent surrounding the appointment of a new manager and players involved in a brawl after a pub crawl. In the grim game of relegation bingo, Newcastle's numbers just came up.

It is hardly surprising they are one of the favourites to go down. Until now, Ashley's stewardship of the club has merely been like a festering sore, the pustulating antithesis to the passion of the supporters.

In the last couple of months, the condition has deteriorated. Now he runs the club like he's gangrene, gradually eating away everything it once stood for.

Salomon Rondon, Newcastle’s best player last season on loan from West Brom, has left

Another one of the Magpies' forwards, Ayoze Perez, has been sold to Leicester this summer

With the right owner, Newcastle could be Liverpool. They could be a club that uses its power-base in its region to challenge for honours. 

It bestrides its city like few other clubs, its stadium dominating like a fortress on the hill, the focus of the Geordie nation, and yet its owner is allowing its power to fall away into impotence and stasis.

Ashley's entire cursed reign at Newcastle has been an exercise in brinksmanship. Trying to do the bare minimum to keep the team in the top flight with access to all those television riches. 

Trying to do just enough and no more. Trying to spend just enough to stay up. Sometimes it has worked. Sometimes it hasn't. Either way, there has never been any joy in it.

As an owner, Ashley has never been anything other than semi-detached. The club is a milch cow for him, a tool to help promote his true love, Sports Direct. 

A club that was once everyone's second favourite team has now become a byword for charmlessness, meanness, gracelessness, spite and lack of ambition.
Owner Mike Ashley allowed Rafa Benitez (right) to leave the club despite his heroics at the club

Owner Mike Ashley allowed Rafa Benitez (right) to leave the club despite his heroics at the club

In these circumstances, maybe it is not surprising that Newcastle fans greeted the appointment of Steve Bruce as their new manager last week with dismay. 

There has been an acceptance for some time that the club need a miracle worker, not just a manager, to counter the malign influence of Ashley and Bruce does not conform to that description.

In the wake of the departure of Benitez, some supporters deluded themselves that men such as Jose Mourinho, Roberto Martinez, Eddie Howe or Steven Gerrard might be interested in the job. 

But why would anyone with self-respect or ambition or a reputation to uphold even toy with the idea of taking over at this version of Newcastle?

The truth is that Bruce is too good for Newcastle, not the other way round. He is too good for Ashley's Newcastle anyway. He may or may not have been 11th choice for the job. That's meaningless if the top 10 decided they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
As an owner, Ashley (left) has never been anything other than semi-detached from the club

As an owner, Ashley (left) has never been anything other than semi-detached from the club
Newcastle fans continue to protest his ownership and were dismayed by Bruce's appointment

Newcastle fans continue to protest his ownership and were dismayed by Bruce's appointment

If Bruce were not a Geordie whose late father loved the club, I doubt he would have gone anywhere near it, either.

Newcastle is a great club but Ashley's Newcastle is not. Ashley's Newcastle is a club that is lucky to have a man and a manager like Bruce. 

Ashley's Newcastle is lucky to have a manager with an affinity for the club, a decent track record as a boss and someone who will be emotionally invested in trying to save it from its owner as well as the other 19 teams in the division. 

He might not be what Newcastle fans wanted but he's as good as it's going to get under Ashley.

If they direct their ire at the manager, they will be missing the target. This is not about Bruce, who has done a good job in difficult circumstances at other clubs. This is about an owner who is fiddling while Newcastle burns.
Bruce is too good for Newcastle, not the other way round – too good for Ashley’s Newcastle

Bruce is too good for Newcastle, not the other way round – too good for Ashley's Newcastle

To attack Bruce would be to do what Ashley wants because it would shift the focus away from him. To attack Bruce would be to divert attention from the real problem. To attack Bruce would be to ignore the root cause of what is going wrong. 

To attack Bruce would be to undermine the best chance Newcastle supporters have got of salvaging something from this season.

I don't subscribe to the idea that Newcastle fans are over-entitled for complaining about their lot.

Maybe they've had it easy compared to clubs such as Morecambe and Leyton Orient but it doesn't change the fact that a club of their size and their potential deserves better than Ashley.

With a decent owner — an owner who is prepared to back his manager rather than ignore him — Newcastle could be a somebody in football again. 

Instead of which, a crisis is upon St James' Park that is of Ashley's making and Newcastle are on the slide before a ball has been kicked.

[JUICE690]

So more of a dig at Ashley's Newcastle than the club itself.

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by JUICE690

[gbandit]

In fairness, the article is better than the headline. Clickbait nonsense for the most part 

[Nine]

Holt should have been binned off for that Bruce article alone, but alas we all still clicked on it 

[NUFCDoog]

That's not a bad article at all to be fair, complements us and says with a proper owner we could be a somebody etc, it's a hit piece on Ashley and says a lot of what we were all saying.

 

"Newcastle is a great club but Ashley's Newcastle is not". Indeed.

[The Butcher]

Spaghetti sacked 

[Interpolic]

46 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said:

That's not a bad article at all to be fair, complements us and says with a proper owner we could be a somebody etc, it's a hit piece on Ashley and says a lot of what we were all saying.

 

"Newcastle is a great club but Ashley's Newcastle is not". Indeed.

 

Bruce wasn't too good for even Ashley's Newcastle though. 

[TRon]

47 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said:

That's not a bad article at all to be fair, complements us and says with a proper owner we could be a somebody etc, it's a hit piece on Ashley and says a lot of what we were all saying.

 

"Newcastle is a great club but Ashley's Newcastle is not". Indeed.

 

 

Good article or bad article, still no getting away from Holt being an obnoxious mouthpiece for the cartel clubs. He'd love to be padel spanked by Thomas Frank, that's the overriding impression you get from reading that piece. 

[leffe186]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

 

Good article or bad article, still no getting away from Holt being an obnoxious mouthpiece for the cartel clubs. He'd love to be padel spanked by Thomas Frank, that's the overriding impression you get from reading that piece. 

Suppose it depends on if you think we’re a cartel club:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14788893/Spurs-pluck-defeat-jaws-victory-sacking-Ange-Postecoglou-writes-OLIVER-HOLT-joy-magic-night-Bilbao-lost.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
 

https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/EPL/OLIVER-HOLT Nuno-Espirto-Santos-Tottenham-are-now-a-team-of-forgotten-men/2699905
 

Maybe he’s just a cunt

 

[TRon]

5 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

Suppose it depends on if you think we’re a cartel club:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14788893/Spurs-pluck-defeat-jaws-victory-sacking-Ange-Postecoglou-writes-OLIVER-HOLT-joy-magic-night-Bilbao-lost.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
 

https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/EPL/OLIVER-HOLT Nuno-Espirto-Santos-Tottenham-are-now-a-team-of-forgotten-men/2699905
 

Maybe he’s just a cunt

 

 

Levy is too tight otherwise Spurs could have got on the cartel gravy train. He's a slightly higher tier version of Mike Ashley sadly for you. I think Sir Jim Ratshit is the Man U version FWIW. 

[leffe186]

6 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Levy is too tight otherwise Spurs could have got on the cartel gravy train. He's a slightly higher tier version of Mike Ashley sadly for you. I think Sir Jim Ratshit is the Man U version FWIW. 

There has been some pretty solid discussion about the key reason Qatar haven’t bought us yet being Levy wanting to stay on and run the place.

[Nucasol]

58 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

Maybe he’s just a cunt

 

 🔔 Ding Ding 🛎️ 

 

*Checks notes…*

”Is the correct answer!”

[Ben]

2 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Levy is too tight otherwise Spurs could have got on the cartel gravy train. He's a slightly higher tier version of Mike Ashley sadly for you. I think Sir Jim Ratshit is the Man U version FWIW. 

 

Levy does a great job running Spurs IMO, I just think his hiring and firing of managers is abysmal and also the fact he never trusts them