The College Dropout Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, hakka said: Chelsea want instant success. Tuchel only managed 18 months and that included winning the CL and still got sacked. I think Potter will need longer than that to win something. Tuchel's spell was ultimately successful and he leaves with his reputation enhanced. If Potter is hired, he'll need to qualify for the CL and have decent cup runs this season. That's it. Chelsea isn't a club where managers lose hard earned reputations. Most improve their reputations. It's not the Man U job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Can't really begrudge Potter having a shot at a Champions League or Prem Trophy, especially given he already has done something remarkable with Östersunds. He took them from the 4th tier of Swedish football to a 5th place finish in Allsvenskan, won Svenska Cupen and got them to the knockout stages of the Europa league, all with a club that had never been higher than the 3rd tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, McCormick said: He'd be mad not to take it imho. Not denying his talent, but how much bigger a club could Potter realistically get? Say he says no, and Brighton fall off spectacularly this or next season. He could get sacked and then that's it, done, it's over for him in terms of getting that top top job (which Chelsea is). The job security of any PL manager is incredibly volatile, you need to cash out when your stock is high. Regardless of Chelsea's proclivity towards sacking managers, he'll be paid well, have a huge budget to play with and actually have a chance to win things. More celebrated managers than Potter have "failed" there and their reputations remained largely intact. Yup. When you are at a club that overachieves as much as Brighton are it's very easy to become a victim of your own success. Potter was raging last season because his side were 8th and drew a game and got boos and abuse from the home crowd. Rodgers finishing 5th twice for Leicester was somehow viewed as a failure by their fans. Ranieri didn't even last a season after winning them the league. Howe's stock dropped massively after one poor season and a lot of bad luck at Bournemouth. He'd be crazy to turn down the Chelsea job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Tuchel's spell was ultimately successful and he leaves with his reputation enhanced. If Potter is hired, he'll need to qualify for the CL and have decent cup runs this season. That's it. Chelsea isn't a club where managers lose hard earned reputations. Most improve their reputations. It's not the Man U job. Worst case scenario for Potter, he's at a Villa, Everton, Leicester, Leeds, West Ham in 2 years time and he can do what he's done with Brighton again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Hang on, didn’t you Hoover up Ashworth? Fair one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) I guess if you're the type that would be up for that kind of job, you can't let the fact there's no evidence Boehly has any iota of a fucking clue what he's doing phase you. Edited September 7, 2022 by B-more Mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: I guess if you're the type that would be up for that kind of job, you can't let the fact there's no evidence Boehly has any iota of a fucking clue what he's doing phase you. Smells like Big George Steinbrenner to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 It’ll only weaken Brighton which is good for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, gazzatoon said: Agree, I hope he stays there. Probably be the next England manager. Shows how out of touch fans are when they still quaintly think that being England manager is the pinnacle of a young manager's dreams. International football is where the best and proven managers plan their retirement years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 With Potter seemingly going to Chelsea, this came up on the timeline. Thickest man in football strikes again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Tuchel was always going to eventually get the chop as that’s how Chelsea operate, it’s success they are chasing and if it’s not instant and constant they will look for another manager and even then they tend to to still chop and change. Potter if offered has to take the opportunity even though everything screams he’d be mad to go to such a high risk job, but if you want to be an elite level manager you can only achieve that at an elite level club. It will certainly be interesting to see how he deals with a group of egos having not had none of that at Brighton and the level expectations at Chelsea having also had next to none at Brighton. His methods are a slow burner type approach though and he will have this season only to sort them out ready for challenging next season because if not, he won’t last either. He does stand a good chance of winning silverware with them which is rare for an English manager, even if it’s an FA or league cup which will help raise his stock even if he doesn’t do well in the league or CL or win either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Rocker's mspaint job needs to be edited so its Bruce and Edwards. Sycophant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: With Potter seemingly going to Chelsea, this came up on the timeline. Thickest man in football strikes again. Please tell me that's not a recent quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Rocker's mspaint job needs to be edited so its Bruce and Edwards. Sycophant. ah man, someone link this please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) @TRonErm, a clue is about 2 inches above of what you wrote. Edited September 7, 2022 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, HTT II said: Tuchel was always going to eventually get the chop as that’s how Chelsea operate, it’s success they are chasing and if it’s not instant and constant they will look for another manager and even then they tend to to still chop and change. Potter if offered has to take the opportunity even though everything screams he’d be mad to go to such a high risk job, but if you want to be an elite level manager you can only achieve that at an elite level club. It will certainly be interesting to see how he deals with a group of egos having not had none of that at Brighton and the level expectations at Chelsea having also had next to none at Brighton. His methods are a slow burner type approach though and he will have this season only to sort them out ready for challenging next season because if not, he won’t last either. He does stand a good chance of winning silverware with them which is rare for an English manager, even if it’s an FA or league cup which will help raise his stock even if he doesn’t do well in the league or CL or win either. What's high risk? You can't name a recent Chelsea manager who has gone to Chelsea and made his reputation worse. Chelsea don't give managers enough rope to make them look (that) bad. Even some thought the Frank sacking was harsh. BUt they will give you a good team and funds to make it more of your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRon said: Please tell me that's not a recent quote. Almost a year ago to the day, when Brighton had 3 wins from 4, were 8 points clear of Bruce's Newcastle and were in the next round of the League Cup which Bruce was knocked out of in the first round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: With Potter seemingly going to Chelsea, this came up on the timeline. Thickest man in football strikes again. mental how Bruce being happy to work for Ashley was perceived as a positive character trait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: @TRonErm, a clue is about 2 inches above of what you wrote. I was slightly thrown by the comment "Thickest man in football strikes again.", made it sound like he'd repeated it. Just misread it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: What's high risk? You can't name a recent Chelsea manager who has gone to Chelsea and made his reputation worse. Chelsea don't give managers enough rope to make them look (that) bad. Even some thought the Frank sacking was harsh. BUt they will give you a good team and funds to make it more of your team. Is a high risk job because it’s more than likely he won’t last there very long, but it’s a risk worth taking if you’re Potter or any manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, TRon said: I was slightly thrown by the comment "Thickest man in football strikes again.", made it sound like he'd repeated it. Just misread it. Yeah i get what you mean, how can anyone be that daft though. There's so much more to it than the stats, he really is a simpleton. Edited September 7, 2022 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, prefabtoon said: Pleased we didn't go for Fofana, £75 million He was the deepest defender but was absolutely roasted by Orsic, who headed the ball past the 21-year-old and sped away towards goal before dinking the ball over Kepa Arrizabalaga. Nowt like writing off a player based on one game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: mental how Bruce being happy to work for Ashley was perceived as a positive character trait. Any real Newcastle fan wouldn't have worked under Ashley after seeing how he treat Keegan and Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, OCK said: Any real Newcastle fan wouldn't have worked under Ashley after seeing how he treat Keegan and Shearer. Shearer worked for him after seeing how he treated Keegan though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: With Potter seemingly going to Chelsea, this came up on the timeline. Thickest man in football strikes again. If Luke Edwards takes were a fleet of galleons, sailing across the choppy sea, that there is the last one floating The rest have all sunk. This one, rudderless, drifts towards the horizon, sails ablaze, crew overboard, holed amidships by the cannonball of reality to certain demise. Bloke is a fucking idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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