TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Before 1997, West Ham had won more major trophies than Chelsea - and Leeds comfortably had won more. As Wolfcastle pointed out above, pre-Harding Chelsea were a club who had a glamours side in the early 70s and that was pretty much it for the entirety of football history. That's always how I saw Chelsea, they had a bit of glamour about them just because of being in one of the swankiest parts of London, but they never seemed to have the passion of a football city like Leeds or Newcastle pre-Abramovic. A big club yes, but as they weren't even considered the biggest club in London, then I always see them as not quite at the level of the one club cities. Obviously this will sound like nonsense to those who have grown up in the last couple of decades and assume Chelsea were lording it over everyone else before that as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Chelsea are close to 30 years of being a good team. London is such a big city and they are relatively central they will have the numbers to support it. They could double their attendance imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PauloGeordio Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: “Great move bringing Keane in. Always good to have a former player in there who knows the club” Worked out for Chewsee didn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: “Great move bringing Keane in. Always good to have a former player in there who knows the club” Worked out for Chewsee didn’t it? Milner in next as player/coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Why is he appointing backroom staff for four games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sima said: Why is he appointing backroom staff for four games? He’s made a deal to take a percentage of their wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 According to the Times, he's set to receive £3m over the four games if Leeds stay up. Just the 500k if they don't. He didn't get fat by underselling himself, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Chelsea are close to 30 years of being a good team. London is such a big city and they are relatively central they will have the numbers to support it. They could double their attendance imo. And 20 of those years were down to Abramovich money. So 10 years if you exclude those is hardly a ringing endorsement of their history. But yes, certainly around the world now they are regarded as a big club, but that's down to the influx of Russian funds. Prior to that they were just another London club which was considered less important than Arsenal or Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 You’re effectively discounting 30 years of actual history though. They’ve been a bigger club than Spurs for pretty much the entire duration of the PL era. There’s an idea that they were nothing pre-Abramovic and that’s not true. They were in the champions league and won multiple trophies. A trajectory higher than Spurs for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheBrownBottle Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: You’re effectively discounting 30 years of actual history though. They’ve been a bigger club than Spurs for pretty much the entire duration of the PL era. There’s an idea that they were nothing pre-Abramovic and that’s not true. They were in the champions league and won multiple trophies. A trajectory higher than Spurs for sure. Closer to 25 years than 30 They are unarguably a big club now. But they never managed this under their own steam - Harding & later Abramovich’s money was needed. PS for anyone too young to remember mediocre Chelsea - everyone ALWAYS hated them, even when they were London’s fourth club. Combat 18, the headhunters, the shed. Cunts, all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, TRon said: According to the Times, he's set to receive £3m over the four games if Leeds stay up. Just the 500k if they don't. He didn't get fat by underselling himself, that's for sure. Too old and too late, same as Rednap would of been at Spurs, come from same mold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, TRon said: According to the Times, he's set to receive £3m over the four games if Leeds stay up. Just the 500k if they don't. He didn't get fat by underselling himself, that's for sure. Four games work. That's £750k pro rata. That's the sort of fee he's looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Wish Pardew got half the shit Lamps is getting, but nee fucker noticed it happening up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I think Fat Sam will earn everything he gets in keeping a club - who are out of the relegation zone - out of the relegation zone. It would be miraculous I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike said: Wish Pardew got half the shit Lamps is getting, but nee fucker noticed it happening up here. Got us to 5th. We should’ve been more grateful… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Closer to 25 years than 30 They are unarguably a big club now. But they never managed this under their own steam - Harding & later Abramovich’s money was needed. PS for anyone too young to remember mediocre Chelsea - everyone ALWAYS hated them, even when they were London’s fourth club. Combat 18, the headhunters, the shed. Cunts, all of them. Yeah, no one is arguing Chelsea's rise to glory in the last 20-30 years, we are really talking prior to the influx of foreign money when Premier clubs had to generate their own funds to prove their value. When Ken Bates was the owner I recall him being particularly shit. But English football wasn't as big a deal back then, it was probably the era before satellite television took the Premier league around the world. Younger fans just assume Chelsea were always huge, but they were a mid-table club who didn't win that much prior to Harding's involvement. I don't think they had a massive ground capacity either, still not sure their local catchment area is that big even now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Decent deal for Leeds, Sam usually profits more by being sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Gutted this pig is going to be there next week. Hopefully we can continue to break our curses (BT & Saudi top at Everton) and beat this lump into oblivion next week. Shame as I don't mind Leeds at all, really torn now between them and Everton. Hopefully both drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Four games work. That's £750k pro rata. That's the sort of fee he's looking at. Nice little bunce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Does anyone have the game when we last actually beat Allardyce? I'm struggling to recall. Surely not when he was at fucking Bolton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: Does anyone have the game when we last actually beat Allardyce? I'm struggling to recall. Surely not when he was at fucking Bolton Jonas & Sissoko, last game of the season to stay up under Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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