Parky Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 City's team itself isn't very good. come on. Hart isn't a top GK. One of Mangala/Demichelis has to start, neither is a top quality CB. Kompany is over-rated Fernando/Fernandinho is uninspiring I don't know for sure but can Aguero play up top by himself? On paper are they much better than Arsenal? They could improve the manager certainly. But the team needs a refresh imo. Down that spine. They need players at least on the level of their star men as partners. Nasri, Dzeko etc. are very good players but they need lads in that bracket above. By the way - i'm just talking about being as good as the first Mourinho Chelsea team, the dominant Man Utd teams, Real, Bayern, Barca. that top level where you can sleep walk into a CL semi-final most years. Any team that wins the league 2 out of 3 years is a very good team but to get to the next level. They aren't good enough. Next level being back-to-back league titles, consistently running deep into the CL. Lot of baggage like Nasri (a boring Hba who goes sideways till sideways becomes the new forward). Unless Yaya really tears up a game they struggle, them midfield is absolute poop for an elite side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 They've not made a truly top signing since Aguero in 2011. Since then, money has been spunked on Fernandinho, Fernando, Javi Garcia, Rodwell, Sinclair, Jovetic and Negredo. Nastasic looked good but he's already gone, Lampard has been a good sub, Navas is ok. That's it. Navas puts in a good cross about once a game and Fernandinho and Fernando would be better suited to the Eurovision song contest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 They have 3, possibly 4 world class players. Chelsea have 5 or 6. They've bought exceedingly poorly too unlike Chelsea. Roman knows the value of a top class manager, Citeh need the same. With their worst manager in pedigree terms they won the CL & FA Cup. Won another European Cup with a deeply unpopular manager. They've always had a good side. Won both of their European cups without Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If he gets canned, would you want him here? Pedigree Chum's latest concept flavour? What? Oh because sacked makes sense? Fuck off England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If he gets canned, would you want him here? Pedigree Chum's latest concept flavour? What? Oh because sacked makes sense? f*** off England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Absolutely knee jerk. They've won the league twice. Absolutely - not very good is an over statement but they aren't massively under-achieving. They consistently challenge for the league or win it and exit CL by R16. This is 5 years of the same stuff from the same core group of players. If you had said this the first time, we'd have agreed. Dunno that anyone would disagree that City need upgrades in a few key areas (CB and CM most notably) or that they don't quite stack up to Chelsea. Well against the marker they're being judged against (winning back to back league titles, running deep in the CL) - they just not that good. They've not massively under-performed. They aren't much better than Arsenal. Take away Aguero, Toure & Silva the team is nothing special. Take away the 3 best players at Chelsea and you're left with 5 or 6 players who won the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 City's team itself isn't very good. I've had this thought before as well. Sounds stupid to say when they have the individual's they have, but I'm just not that convinced. Saying that, they can just drop another £100m in the summer. Doesn't matter when they'll probably spend it on shit again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 They have 3, possibly 4 world class players. Chelsea have 5 or 6. They've bought exceedingly poorly too unlike Chelsea. Roman knows the value of a top class manager, Citeh need the same. Like one that loses to ten men in the last 16 of the champions league barely even trying to win the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Malky MacKay sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 How many more years till the FA complete it's investigation on him btw? Another 10 long grueling years staring at the emails and wondering? what do do? what is the point? why are we paid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Malky MacKay sacked Get in. Would love to see them go down again next season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Malky MacKay sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If you were a diehard Wigan fan would you be disappointed in the grander scheme of things? Last 10-12 years they've had a bash at being a big club, way beyond what they would expect. They've had a good run in the Premier League, had a League Cup Final, won the FA Cup and had a European run. Realistically that was never going to be consistent or long term, and they've returned to their average level. They showed ambition. I'd bet the few thousand that used to turn up at Springfield Park when they were battling relegation into The Conference can still look back and be proud at what they've done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 In ten years time I'm sure they'll look at it like that. Right now they're probably a little miffed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If you were a diehard Wigan fan would you be disappointed in the grander scheme of things? Last 10-12 years they've had a bash at being a big club, way beyond what they would expect. They've had a good run in the Premier League, had a League Cup Final, won the FA Cup and had a European run. Realistically that was never going to be consistent or long term, and they've returned to their average level. They showed ambition. I'd bet the few thousand that used to turn up at Springfield Park when they were battling relegation into The Conference can still look back and be proud at what they've done. For me its all about potential. Wigan fans have every right to demand that their club get back into the top-flight, stay there, play good football and compete in the cups even though size wise and history wise there are bigger clubs in League Two. Just like we have every right to demand that our club tries to play good football, look to win a trophy and break into the top 6, despite years of shit. Arsenal fans have every right to demand their club tries to win the league, even the CL etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 But even in the Premier League, they punched above their weight. It's the same with the likes of Bolton, Fulham, Blackburn, Boro, Portsmouth....once they went down and they were stuck with big wages, no more Sky money, etc. it was always going to be hard to come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 But even in the Premier League, they punched above their weight. It's the same with the likes of Bolton, Fulham, Blackburn, Boro, Portsmouth....once they went down and they were stuck with big wages, no more Sky money, etc. it was always going to be hard to come back. Aye, but why should fans simply be happy to be back to where they once belonged or once were? Not saying that's why you are suggesting. I once regarded NUFC as a club with the potential to compete for the league and as such I expected my club to at least try and compete with those kind of clubs, sadly it is now out of the question unless of an Abramovic or oil money. But top 6? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 haven't you guys forgotten, dave whelan broke his brain in a cup final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 But even in the Premier League, they punched above their weight. It's the same with the likes of Bolton, Fulham, Blackburn, Boro, Portsmouth....once they went down and they were stuck with big wages, no more Sky money, etc. it was always going to be hard to come back. Bit harsh to throw Bolton and Blackburn in with that lot. Blackburn have won as many major honours as we have although I know where you're coming from RE: "potential" aka attendances/catchment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Malky MacKay sacked Good, no less than he deserves. For being a piece of shit and a shit manager. Can't be both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Jacob Steinberg @JacobSteinberg · Shame if Malky Mackay was sacked via the medium of friendly text message banter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Jacob Steinberg @JacobSteinberg · Shame if Malky Mackay was sacked via the medium of friendly text message banter. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 West Ham don't waste time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 West Ham don't waste time. This official now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 George Caulkin retweeted West Ham United FC @whufc_official 9 mins9 minutes ago STATEMENT: The Club have begun the search for a new manager after deciding not to renew Sam Allardyce’s contract http://wes.hm/whu240515 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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