Crumpy Gunt Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Club have finally admitted what we thought might be true. appropriate link. Some other depressing shit in there as well. http://www.nust.org.uk/newcastle-united-fans-forum-report Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Great thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 So Swansea were essentially idiots for winning the cup according to those cunts that run us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's a very bad attitude, especially for a club like ours who have no chance of doing anything in the league. I blame the club for the attitude, but also the football authorities for allowing PL survival to become so critically important. We probably aren't the only club that places their priorities 95% on the league, but we're the only one thick enough to say so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 That quote is actually not news, it's just a bit depressing to have it spelled out like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Lot of twanging of knees going on. All that appears to have been said is that the priority is the league. As it has always been, as it always will be, for every club. We will go out tonight looking to beat Leeds and progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Lot of twanging of knees going on. All that appears to have been said is that the priority is the league. As it has always been, as it always will be, for every club. We will go out tonight looking to beat Leeds and progress. Aye. I can't see Pardew being under direct instruction to go out of the cups at the earliest opportunity, which is how some seem to be taking this news. Our main focus is the league, because if we fall out of that, rather than a cup, the implications are slightly worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. As if CG would want to highlight the positive parts of the meeting man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Lot of twanging of knees going on. All that appears to have been said is that the priority is the league. As it has always been, as it always will be, for every club. We will go out tonight looking to beat Leeds and progress. It's a disgusting attitude. Disgusting lack of ambition. Maybe if we can stumble to a QF Pardew will realise he has a chance to make history and focus on a cup. IMO the very definition of a midtable side should be looking to cup runs. 5-6 points can take you from 9th to 14th in the league, such small margins. I understand the money from 9th-14th is significant but I wouldn't want my job depending on such a thing. I'd take lower midtable finishes and real cup attempts over finishing 8th and rolling over to Brighton again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Appalling attitude. I like the hypocrisy of then saying a top-ten finish is a priority, while we continue to employ Pardew as manager with minimal coaching staff and refusing to re-invest during the summer while everyone around us does. Utterly absurd way of seeing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. 'winning cup competitions is not a priority' Says everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. 'winning cup competitions is not a priority' Says everything. Yeah that would be slightly better title than your interpretation of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He's not under direct instruction. But if your boss doesn't care about something and rather focus on an incremental increase elsewhere, you will do the same. If my boss doesn't care about something, I don't care about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 As we've seen though, a higher league position means sweet FA in terms of improving the squad. It's just so someone's back pocket is a little heavier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. As if CG would want to highlight the positive parts of the meeting man What would you think was positive? If there is a positive its the Clubs honesty in that we are an also ran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He's not under direct instruction. But if your boss doesn't care about something and rather focus on an incremental increase elsewhere, you will do the same. If my boss doesn't care about something, I don't care about it. Yes but if it's something you still want to achieve you will still try and achieve it regardless if you don't get any praise off your boss for it, just means you know it won't affect your overall job security if you fail to achieve your overall target, in this case, winning the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Appalling attitude. I like the hypocrisy of then saying a top-ten finish is a priority, while we continue to employ Pardew as manager with minimal coaching staff and refusing to re-invest during the summer while everyone around us does. Utterly absurd way of seeing things. Aye the threadbare approach is even more baffling when they state that. Its hardly going to cost the world to provide a decent backroom staff(assuming we werent priced out of that market too ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. As if CG would want to highlight the positive parts of the meeting man What would you think was positive? If there is a positive its the Clubs honesty in that we are an also ran. You seriously read that whole thing and couldnt find one even slightly positive thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. Aye. "Sadly because of the way that Sky money controls football, cup competitions are not the priority of Premier League clubs" would be a lot more accurate. "Newcastle director gives honest answer to question" could be another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 As a club, we are about Europe and *trying* to win cup competitions. Prior to Ashley we often got into Europe and were in a few Finals, semi-finals, QF's the prior 8 years. We looked to really give it a go in Europe and the FA Cup. Mike Ashley doesn't get or understand the clubs ambitions. Or he simply doesn't want to meet it. I really wish we had a Geordie in charge or someone that cares. Say what you like about that fat fool Freddy Shephard - but he had ambition for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Aiming for top 10 is a bit shit to be honest, I'd like a bit more ambition that than. We were 5th 2 years ago, we should have finished at least 8th last year with the team we had, and then been looking to improve. We have stagnated so much and other teams have caught up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. Aye. "Sadly because of the way that Sky money controls football, cup competitions are not the priority of Premier League clubs" would be a lot more accurate. "Newcastle director gives honest answer to question" could be another. 'Premier League is priority' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thread title is a bit misleading. Aye. "Sadly because of the way that Sky money controls football, cup competitions are not the priority of Premier League clubs" would be a lot more accurate. "Newcastle director gives honest answer to question" could be another. 'Premier League is priority' FFS man, any PL club would say the same. A constant whinge on here is about lack of honesty from the club. They get an honest answer - and a pretty obvious one - cue more whingeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Lot of twanging of knees going on. All that appears to have been said is that the priority is the league. As it has always been, as it always will be, for every club. We will go out tonight looking to beat Leeds and progress. It's a disgusting attitude. Disgusting lack of ambition. Maybe if we can stumble to a QF Pardew will realise he has a chance to make history and focus on a cup. IMO the very definition of a midtable side should be looking to cup runs. 5-6 points can take you from 9th to 14th in the league, such small margins. I understand the money from 9th-14th is significant but I wouldn't want my job depending on such a thing. I'd take lower midtable finishes and real cup attempts over finishing 8th and rolling over to Brighton again. I just don't think it follows that we wont put effort into the cups. Considering one of the few things Pardew is known for is his failed (unfairly possibly) cup finals, I'm pretty sure he will as well. Despite playing squad players in the earlier rounds, I think we took Europe pretty seriously, no? Looking at the other parts of the report, why isn't Ashley taking that £18m back now as planned? Surely a good time for it seen as we spent fuck all this summer. Oh and good news on the disabled away travel. Oh, and wtf are we doing still deciding the third kit? Will it go to a vote for members? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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