Lotus Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 They also believed that the increased TV money this year would inflate the transfer market which is why they were prepared to bring forward their business to the last January window rather than this summer. Isn't that extra TV money coming through at the end of this season? I'm sure people repeatedly stated that this summer in defence of our lack of spending. So next summer could be a problem too... Even ignoring that, are they seriously suggesting that a) this January's activities had nothing to do with our perilous league position and form at the time and b) signing one senior player last summer was perfectly adequate? It's pointless disecting it imo as it's meant to be opaque and ultimately uninformative bollox. The bottom line is that the club would like to stay out of the bottom 5 places as that brings about the threat of relegation which would be bad for the balance sheet. As long as that's acheived not a single f**k will be given if we don't compete for or achieve anything else. There is a will continue to be a complete absense of sporting ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Why are people defending this? Defending what? All I've seen is some countering the idea floated that it means we have 'No Interest Whatsoever In Winning Cups'. Call it what you want, it's the same people instantly taking an opposing view to anything negative said about the regime and their puppet. "The thread title is a bit misleading isn't it? The haven't said they have NO interest, just that they don't really have much of an interest, or something. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. They're just being honest!" Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Why are people defending this? Defending what? All I've seen is some countering the idea floated that it means we have 'No Interest Whatsoever In Winning Cups'. Call it what you want, it's the same people instantly taking an opposing view to anything negative said about the regime and their puppet. "The thread title is a bit misleading isn't it? The haven't said they have NO interest, just that they don't really have much of an interest, or something. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. They're just being honest!" Yep. Must be horrible to have backed yourself so far into a corner you just type a load of shit you don't even believe to save yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I can't believe anyone is surprised at this after watching the game against Brighton last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We use the cup to evaluate the squad. People still trying to spin it positively? We don't even get to evaluate them for long ffs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 People still trying to spin it positively? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I can't believe anyone is surprised at this after watching the game against Brighton last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Lot of twanging of knees going on. All that appears to have been said is that the priority is the league. As it has always been, as it always will be, for every club. We will go out tonight looking to beat Leeds and progress. I disagree as the comment about "evaluating the squad" heavily implies that we won't be fielding a first team in these competitions. It's not particularly news but the whole thing reads like a total lack of ambition and year on year mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Why are people defending this? Defending what? All I've seen is some countering the idea floated that it means we have 'No Interest Whatsoever In Winning Cups'. Call it what you want, it's the same people instantly taking an opposing view to anything negative said about the regime and their puppet. "The thread title is a bit misleading isn't it? The haven't said they have NO interest, just that they don't really have much of an interest, or something. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. They're just being honest!" Yep Nah. There are things reported from the meeting that are a joke, the SD advertising excuse for instance, good luck finding an opposing view on that. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? A) I'd suggest it's the standard response you'd get from any clubs financial Director. B) We did pretty well in a cup competition last year, taking it increasingly seriously. C) Our captain and manager clearly want to win something in their careers. D) We may use some squad players in earlier rounds, but I'd seriously doubt that when it comes to the crunch, because it's not our 'main priority' we'll just jack it off. I'm not defending what Irving said (or the regime, or the puppet), just think the reaction to it is, again, stupidly over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Yep. Must be horrible to have backed yourself so far into a corner you just type a load of shit you don't even believe to save yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. There's a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. There's a surprise. Is he always? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Why are people defending this? Defending what? All I've seen is some countering the idea floated that it means we have 'No Interest Whatsoever In Winning Cups'. Call it what you want, it's the same people instantly taking an opposing view to anything negative said about the regime and their puppet. "The thread title is a bit misleading isn't it? The haven't said they have NO interest, just that they don't really have much of an interest, or something. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. They're just being honest!" Yep Nah. There are things reported from the meeting that are a joke, the SD advertising excuse for instance, good luck finding an opposing view on that. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? A) I'd suggest it's the standard response you'd get from any clubs financial Director. B) We did pretty well in a cup competition last year, taking it increasingly seriously. C) Our captain and manager clearly want to win something in their careers. D) We may use some squad players in earlier rounds, but I'd seriously doubt that when it comes to the crunch, because it's not our 'main priority' we'll just jack it off. I'm not defending what Irving said (or the regime, or the puppet), just think the reaction to it is, again, stupidly over the top. Ah man, that's a pure class post. I'm in tears here. Moving stuff. I'm off to the Ace Posts thread, but, before I go, I feel I must do this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Alan Pardew says he is treating tonight's Capital One Cup tie with Leeds as seriously as Newcastle United's fans http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-im-taking-capital-6086433 Although, as always, actions will speak louder than words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will play the unused first team players and the more interesting youth/reserve prospects, as we have done in every cup match for many, many seasons. It is not as if we are throwing out the u-18 team, most of the players will be highly paid and some internationals. If we manage to stumble our way to the quarter finals with this strategy, we will throw out the first team and treat it like the World Cup. This is the way most clubs in the Championship and above treat the League Cup. It is just the nature of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 All managers say this before the league cup man, it's nothing new!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. You probably didn't even read it, man. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? It doesn't just say that, that the cup competitions are just lower down our list of priotities, it says "the cup competitions are not a priority for the club. They are used to be able to look at our squad as a whole. The focus is on a top ten league place because the financial rewards are so great" How anyone can even try to spin that to anything other than "no interest in winning the cups" is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will play the unused first team players and the more interesting youth/reserve prospects, as we have done in every cup match for many, many seasons. It is not as if we are throwing out the u-18 team, most of the players will be highly paid and some internationals. If we manage to stumble our way to the quarter finals with this strategy, we will throw out the first team and treat it like the World Cup. This is the way most clubs in the Championship and above treat the League Cup. It is just the nature of things. What? You mean exactly the same as we have always done under previous regimes and managers and every club has done since the start of the Premier League ? Surely not ? I think it's only NUFC and the present regime who would admit that the league is priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. You probably didn't even read it, man. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? It doesn't just say that, that the cup competitions are just lower down our list of priotities, it says "the cup competitions are not a priority for the club. They are used to be able to look at our squad as a whole. The focus is on a top ten league place because the financial rewards are so great" How anyone can even try to spin that to anything other than "no interest in winning the cups" is beyond me. Sorry, don't think they're mutually exclusive like. It's editorializing and, at best, an uncharitable interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Appalling information, most of that. Sad, sad state at the moment. The questions regarding Sports Direct need to be more direct next time. Emailed their customer service to ask who would receive my money if I bought the strip, still no answer after three weeks. It's obvious they're taking all the money from nufcdirect.com. The club HAS to communicate this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We haven't got a hope in hell of winning a cup with Pardew and Kinnear in charge anyway. Both of them have got to cup finals with lesser teams. When did Kinnear get to a Cup Final as a manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. You probably didn't even read it, man. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? It doesn't just say that, that the cup competitions are just lower down our list of priotities, it says "the cup competitions are not a priority for the club. They are used to be able to look at our squad as a whole. The focus is on a top ten league place because the financial rewards are so great" How anyone can even try to spin that to anything other than "no interest in winning the cups" is beyond me. Sorry, don't think they're mutually exclusive like. It's editorializing and, at best, an uncharitable interpretation. And that would be a fantastic argument People are actually defending what has been recorded though, which is fucking ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct BottledDog. You probably didn't even read it, man. But it is absolute bollocks that cup competitions being lower down on our list of priorities than the league means we have no interest in winning a cup. Is this really deserving of your outrage? Really? It doesn't just say that, that the cup competitions are just lower down our list of priotities, it says "the cup competitions are not a priority for the club. They are used to be able to look at our squad as a whole. The focus is on a top ten league place because the financial rewards are so great" How anyone can even try to spin that to anything other than "no interest in winning the cups" is beyond me. Sorry, don't think they're mutually exclusive like. It's editorializing and, at best, an uncharitable interpretation. and that would be a fantastic argument. People are actually defending what has been recorded though, which is fucking ludicrous. Who is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We haven't got a hope in hell of winning a cup with Pardew and Kinnear in charge anyway. Both of them have got to cup finals with lesser teams. When did Kinnear get to a Cup Final as a manager? Got to both the league cup, and the FA cup finals with the Wombles iirc. Edit: Wiki agrees, though that could be Kinnear up to his spouting shit trick again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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