Flip Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Lovrens left arm, holds his shoulder. Check the moving images again. There's barely any contact, but I don't see how Robben gets away with it for you but not Fred. He never grabs his arm, this is a still from when Fred is beginning his slow motion dive. Having your arm on top of someone else's arm will never be a penalty. The only contact is his hand lightly on his clavicle. Greece don;'t even attack. They just hold the ball until they lose it and settle back. Watch the moving images, he puts his hand on his shoulder and pulls a bit (you can see the shirt movement if you watch it in slow-motion). It's never a pen in a million years, just like todays isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fwiw, the most embarrassing and yet successful diver I've ever seen is Jonas. Utter cartoon capers, he should be embarrassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Terrible by Borges. Awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Robben one was actually a pel, Fred's wasn't. Obviously nee excuse for Robben to have a fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty. Simple as that really. Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball. Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position. Eh ? players slightly catching players happens over and over and over in every single game, it's up to the ref to decide if the contact warrants a free kick. Or if a player has dived as Robben does on a million occasions. It's a contact game ffs, not a tarts paradise of luvvie acting school. Out of interest, and obviously inconsequential with regards to the later shenigans, but did you think the incident in the first half was a penalty? Absolutely, twice in fact. The first contact was hard to spot because the ball hit Robben on the back of the foot after being fouled by the chasing player making it look like the defender got the ball, but Marquez then cleaned Robben out, nailed on pen and the clearest one of the whole tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fwiw, the most embarrassing and yet successful diver I've ever seen is Jonas. Utter cartoon capers, he should be embarrassed. His fall backwards as if he's been pulled over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Terrible by Borges. Awful Great vision, man. Just the receiving player who didn't run for the ball properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 We can discuss until the cows come home, but ultimately I do think it was a foul and to be denied two possible penalties today when we have conceded two extremely soft ones before (Diego Costa step on De Vrij, Janmaat handling the ball shot from a couple of yards out to his dangling hand while in motion) would have left a sour taste in my mouth if it meant we would have gone out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Terrible by Borges. Awful Great vision, man. Just the receiving player who didn't run for the ball properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fwiw, the most embarrassing and yet successful diver I've ever seen is Jonas. Utter cartoon capers, he should be embarrassed. Aye, fucking hate that about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I do think there should be more incidental allowed (or that it should at least be more consistent), but missing the ball and contacting someone's leg when they are trying to dribble past you is foul, regardless, and this was a penalty. Simple as that really. Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball. Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position. Eh ? players slightly catching players happens over and over and over in every single game, it's up to the ref to decide if the contact warrants a free kick. Or if a player has dived as Robben does on a million occasions. It's a contact game ffs, not a tarts paradise of luvvie acting school. Out of interest, and obviously inconsequential with regards to the later shenigans, but did you think the incident in the first half was a penalty? Absolutely, twice in fact. The first contact was hard to spot because the ball hit Robben on the back of the foot after being fouled by the chasing player making it look like the defender got the ball, but Marquez then cleaned Robben out, nailed on pen and the clearest one of the whole tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can't believe this has only been on for 28 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Robben flew into the air because of minimal contact. It was rewarded because the sport is f***ed. If I am driving the basket and you smack my arm, it is a foul. The fact that the ref won't call it unless I yell "ahhh" and flail a hand isn't my fault. Its more along the lines of is it a foul if I touched your arm after you released the shot, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can't believe this has only been on for 28 minutes. Isn't tournament football supposed to become better at the knockout stages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I fear Greece nicking a 1-0 win... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 So do Greece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can't believe this has only been on for 28 minutes. Isn't tournament football supposed to become better at the knockout stages? if greece, false Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Campbell is a delight to watch like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Campbell is a delight to watch like. and I hope borges scores a hattirck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Number 16 for Greece is proper shit, off looking fucker n all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Papiss Grisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fwiw, the most embarrassing and yet successful diver I've ever seen is Jonas. Utter cartoon capers, he should be embarrassed. Aye, f***ing hate that about him. Always seems like he needs that whistle sound effect when it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Argh. Greece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Lee Dixon sounds as though he's about to throw himself into the sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 This is just vintage Greece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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