Guest n4e Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Both games on BBC today. http://scoremonkey.co.uk/images/regulars/lawro.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/6yfQC16.png?1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Both games on BBC today. http://scoremonkey.co.uk/images/regulars/lawro.png Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Both games on BBC today. http://scoremonkey.co.uk/images/regulars/lawro.png Jonathan Pearce and Lawro are commentating on Argentina Switzerland. Fucking dream team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 How are the games in England broadcasted then? Is it split up between the major broadcast networks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The shit in that article is ridiculous. Messi is fucking amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 How are the games in England broadcasted then? Is it split up between the major broadcast networks? 50/50 between BBC and ITV Final on both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-3.png?w=610&h=523 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-41.png?w=610&h=678 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-5.png?w=610&h=475 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-6.png?w=610&h=479 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-8.png?w=610&h=505 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-133.png?w=610&h=440 http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/morris-feature-messi-101.png?w=610&h=460 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He's an anomaly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi now thats just lunacy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 And in that blip he still scored 28 goals and assisted 11 in 31 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi Ronaldo clearly can be mentioned in the same breath as Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Some of those graphs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ronaldo Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi Ronaldo clearly can be mentioned in the same breath as Messi. If you can't see it with your eyes just look at the graphs. Messi can do everything to the highest standard while Ronaldo just scores goals to a similar standard to Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ronaldo is generally on or around the line of best fit whereas Messi is a consistent outlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Messi vs Senderos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 They're different players. Both great. Ronaldo is world class in his own right. He's just as good as Messi technically and has superior conditioning. Messi edges it on dribbling purely because the style of dribbling he does (short sharp touches) and has a slightly better mentality. Ronaldo has a great attitude, of course. He's as good as he is because he works so damn hard. He's earned his status. However Messi works jut as hard but also has a naturally cooler temperament. Players play well when they're relaxed and happy. You can see it when Ronaldo thinks it's easy and almost doesn't give a shit, he'll run rings around anyone. When he plays for Portugal he's going out onto the pitch with something to prove, he tenses up, tries to force it, and he ends up not being his best. Messi, as a cooler character, doesn't seem fazed by the spotlight and for that reason alone I'd maybe edge him above Ronaldo. But really, they're both #1 and #2 in the world... which is which comes down to who is playing better on the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Not really, look at the graphs. Messi does everything better and not by a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Happy Face would love this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 They're different players. Both great. Ronaldo is world class in his own right. He's just as good as Messi technically and has superior conditioning. Messi edges it on dribbling purely because the style of dribbling he does (short sharp touches) and has a slightly better mentality. Ronaldo has a great attitude, of course. He's as good as he is because he works so damn hard. He's earned his status. However Messi works jut as hard but also has a naturally cooler temperament. Players play well when they're relaxed and happy. You can see it when Ronaldo thinks it's easy and almost doesn't give a shit, he'll run rings around anyone. When he plays for Portugal he's going out onto the pitch with something to prove, he tenses up, tries to force it, and he ends up not being his best. Messi, as a cooler character, doesn't seem fazed by the spotlight and for that reason alone I'd maybe edge him above Ronaldo. But really, they're both #1 and #2 in the world... which is which comes down to who is playing better on the day. Messi doesn't edge it on dribbling, he destroys him on dribbling along with most other things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ronaldo is the complete footballer. If you were to design the ultimate footballer, I would imagine that he would end up being like him. Tall, strong, fast, skillful, good in the air, excellent positioning, lethal finisher and a brilliant, winning mentality. Messi is all of those things without looking like the complete footballer. He's more one footed and obviously not as prolific in the air. He's a better dribbler by a distance for me though and at his best a much better player all round. I remember a quote from someone whose name escapes me, but it was "Ronaldo is the best player in the world, but Messi is on another planet" and that pretty much sums it up for me. At any other time we'd be talking about Ronaldo being one of the best players of all time, and he is. But Messi is something really special that I've only ever seen for that 1 or 2 years before Original Ronaldo got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 messi is rubbish, long live king ronaldo, fuck triggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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