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2014 FIFA World Cup Brasil™ - Europe vs. America


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Both games on BBC today.

 

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I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi

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I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi

now thats just lunacy

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I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi

Ronaldo clearly can be mentioned in the same breath as Messi.

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I hated back last season when Messi was struggling for form/saving himself for the world cup that pundits kept saying Ronaldo was the best player in the world. Just because Messi went through a bit of a blip doesn't mean Ronaldo is better. Ronaldo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi

Ronaldo clearly can be mentioned in the same breath as Messi.

If you can't see it with your eyes just look at the graphs. Messi can do everything to the highest standard while Ronaldo just scores goals to a similar standard to Messi

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They're different players. Both great. Ronaldo is world class in his own right. He's just as good as Messi technically and has superior conditioning. Messi edges it on dribbling purely because the style of dribbling he does (short sharp touches) and has a slightly better mentality. Ronaldo has a great attitude, of course. He's as good as he is because he works so damn hard. He's earned his status. However Messi works jut as hard but also has a naturally cooler temperament. Players play well when they're relaxed and happy. You can see it when Ronaldo thinks it's easy and almost doesn't give a shit, he'll run rings around anyone. When he plays for Portugal he's going out onto the pitch with something to prove, he tenses up, tries to force it, and he ends up not being his best. Messi, as a cooler character, doesn't seem fazed by the spotlight and for that reason alone I'd maybe edge him above Ronaldo. But really, they're both #1 and #2 in the world... which is which comes down to who is playing better on the day.

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They're different players. Both great. Ronaldo is world class in his own right. He's just as good as Messi technically and has superior conditioning. Messi edges it on dribbling purely because the style of dribbling he does (short sharp touches) and has a slightly better mentality. Ronaldo has a great attitude, of course. He's as good as he is because he works so damn hard. He's earned his status. However Messi works jut as hard but also has a naturally cooler temperament. Players play well when they're relaxed and happy. You can see it when Ronaldo thinks it's easy and almost doesn't give a shit, he'll run rings around anyone. When he plays for Portugal he's going out onto the pitch with something to prove, he tenses up, tries to force it, and he ends up not being his best. Messi, as a cooler character, doesn't seem fazed by the spotlight and for that reason alone I'd maybe edge him above Ronaldo. But really, they're both #1 and #2 in the world... which is which comes down to who is playing better on the day.

Messi doesn't edge it on dribbling, he destroys him on dribbling along with most other things

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Ronaldo is the complete footballer. If you were to design the ultimate footballer, I would imagine that he would end up being like him. Tall, strong, fast, skillful, good in the air, excellent positioning, lethal finisher and a brilliant, winning mentality.

 

Messi is all of those things without looking like the complete footballer. He's more one footed and obviously not as prolific in the air. He's a better dribbler by a distance for me though and at his best a much better player all round.

 

I remember a quote from someone whose name escapes me, but it was "Ronaldo is the best player in the world, but Messi is on another planet" and that pretty much sums it up for me. At any other time we'd be talking about Ronaldo being one of the best players of all time, and he is. But Messi is something really special that I've only ever seen for that 1 or 2 years before Original Ronaldo got injured.

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