Dokko Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 http://replygif.net/i/1118.gif http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1f/1f413599e442cfb451e3e6fa4062f9be41546cf53f1c854986b5325fd706bbac.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Some of our passing today was a million lightyears better than last season. We also hoofed a bit especially early on, but have to credit him that he actually can get us playing like that. He's still frustratingly cautious, slow to change the game up, still seems to largely be reactive tactically but he has settled us down after a strange inconsistent start, and got us a lot of momentum. The team look like a team and have gelled. I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. The only shame is one suspects is a lack of ambition to kick on from this and try and stay in the top 5, I can really see us strangely capitulating on teh last day to avoid the europa league or something (albeit doubt we will be in the position by then, we'll have some injury problems and our momentum will run out some time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Things are definately better & to be ahead of the 5th season at christmas is absolutely brill. Need to learn to keep on top when we've got the momentum, hope we can create that ability in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Some of our passing today was a million lightyears better than last season. We also hoofed a bit especially early on, but have to credit him that he actually can get us playing like that. He's still frustratingly cautious, slow to change the game up, still seems to largely be reactive tactically but he has settled us down after a strange inconsistent start, and got us a lot of momentum. The team look like a team and have gelled. I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. The only shame is one suspects is a lack of ambition to kick on from this and try and stay in the top 5, I can really see us strangely capitulating on teh last day to avoid the europa league or something (albeit doubt we will be in the position by then, we'll have some injury problems and our momentum will run out some time) We actually look capable of build up play at times and retained posession quite well. All players looking pretty comfortable on the ball even Willo and simple passing working. Also a lot more movement and support lately and we look dangerous from set pieces and wings again. We look good with Anita, Cabaye and Tiote all playing and it really helps us control the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9084152/ Good interview, acknowledges (again) how shit the set pieces are. Winning me around again the silver cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I'm not sure they are that capable of grinding out results tbh, they are poor, but we gave them very few chances, dominated possession and punished them, perfect away performance. Well they hadn't conceded in the last 4 home games prior to us and won the two previous 1-0 so i think they have the capabilities to grind results out. Don't get drawn in to the fact it's only Palace we beat 3-0 and they are shite. That was a tough fixture and we've done very well to make that game so comfortable for ourselves, like Pardew said, not many teams will be winning 3-0 there this season. Was credit to us for getting a grip on that game fairly early on and spoil Palace's tactics. Given the conditions that game could have easily turned very scrappy but we played through it and showed a lot of class out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 http://www.themag.co.uk/video-replay/london-press-ask-pardew-if-he-can-match-last-season-video-interview-alan-pardew-post-match-palace/ not towing the party line for once... credit to him. answering lee ryder despite wendy sticking her oar in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way credit to the guy for this season to date as you say, but it's built on almost ideal circumstances again with injuries/suspensions... (i realise this will be seen as some that i'm unnecessarily being negative about the guy but that's not it, it's just the truth as i see - he's doing great at the moment ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. nah, howay man, i'm clearly referring to a sustained period of injuries and/or suspensions...he's had results go against him this season and we've bounced back like we did when finishing 5th but in that season and this he had the majority of the players he'd want on the pitch available to him most of the time imho i've not seen anything like last season from an NUFC manager personally, he was gone mentally - had no answers whatsoever for what to do in the face of (at times) extreme difficulty, he was just a passenger or another supporter, powerless to stop what was happening until 5 players turned up and saved the season for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 http://www.themag.co.uk/video-replay/london-press-ask-pardew-if-he-can-match-last-season-video-interview-alan-pardew-post-match-palace/ not towing the party line for once... credit to him. answering lee ryder despite wendy sticking her oar in. "Sorry Lee, we've discussed this" haha, bet he had a proper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. nah, howay man, i'm clearly referring to a sustained period of injuries and/or suspensions...he's had results go against him this season and we've bounced back like we did when finishing 5th but in that season and this he had the majority of the players he'd want on the pitch available to him most of the time imho i've not seen anything like last season from an NUFC manager personally, he was gone mentally - had no answers whatsoever for what to do in the face of (at times) extreme difficulty, he was just a passenger or another supporter, powerless to stop what was happening until 5 players turned up and saved the season for him Desperate stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I still think he has the wrong set of characteristics for tough times, but credit where it's due, I didn't think he could turn us back into a good team again and he has. aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. nah, howay man, i'm clearly referring to a sustained period of injuries and/or suspensions...he's had results go against him this season and we've bounced back like we did when finishing 5th but in that season and this he had the majority of the players he'd want on the pitch available to him most of the time imho i've not seen anything like last season from an NUFC manager personally, he was gone mentally - had no answers whatsoever for what to do in the face of (at times) extreme difficulty, he was just a passenger or another supporter, powerless to stop what was happening until 5 players turned up and saved the season for him Desperate stuff. what the fuck are you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 At least 3 of those should have arrived 5 months earlier though which isn't Pardew's fault. His overall record since Villa which is when they came into the team properly is : P 32 W 15, D 5, L 12 Pts 50 (averages out to just over 59pts over a season). That suggests to me if we'd given him the squad he got in January, last summer when Ashley/Llambias should have done this, we'd have been more than comfortable. That run of form between drawing at Anfield and beating Villa with the new signings was wretched. That's not to defend him because he was woeful for the most part last season and was very lucky to keep his job imo. He should have still done better with what he had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Desperate stuff. He's right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 At least 3 of those should have arrived 5 months earlier though which isn't Pardew's fault. His overall record since Villa which is when they came into the team properly is : P 32 W 15, D 5, L 12 Pts 50 (averages out to just over 59pts over a season). That suggests to me if we'd given him the squad he got in January, last summer when Ashley/Llambias should have done this, we'd have been more than comfortable. how does any of that change what i've said? i agree he's fine when he's got the minimum he feels he needs to work with, when he doesn't have that he'll struggle (last season) - this is all i'm saying really...if we get crippled over xmas with 7 injuries and suspensions he'll not be able to muster up some amazing performances from the meager tools at his disposal, that's just not his thing this season he's had plenty of options and has done well there's no controversy here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 At least 3 of those should have arrived 5 months earlier though which isn't Pardew's fault. His overall record since Villa which is when they came into the team properly is : P 32 W 15, D 5, L 12 Pts 50 (averages out to just over 59pts over a season). That suggests to me if we'd given him the squad he got in January, last summer when Ashley/Llambias should have done this, we'd have been more than comfortable. That run of form between drawing at Anfield and beating Villa with the new signings was wretched. That's not to defend him because he was woeful for the most part last season and was very lucky to keep his job imo. He should have still done better with what he had. Last season he said we were challenging for the CL, he either believed that or he shouldn't have said it because he ended up looking like a tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Doing well. hes right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 i note this was conveniently cut from my post as well like credit to the guy for this season to date as you say, but it's built on almost ideal circumstances again with injuries/suspensions... (i realise this will be seen as some that i'm unnecessarily being negative about the guy but that's not it, it's just the truth as i see - he's doing great at the moment ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Could the ''ideal set of circumstances'' be considered somewhat equilibrious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Could the ''ideal set of circumstances'' be considered somewhat equilibrious? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Could the ''ideal set of circumstances'' be considered somewhat equilibrious? What? For your benefit injuries and suspensions don't happen to anybody but us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Let's face it, if Pardew had been replaced in the summer and a new manager had had exactly the same season we've had so far, everyone would have been singing his praises for weeks already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Could the ''ideal set of circumstances'' be considered somewhat equilibrious? What? For your benefit injuries and suspensions don't happen to anybody but us. Assuming that's what he meant, and I don't think it is, what does it have to do with pardew not being able to perform when he's hit by them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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