Guest Alyosha Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 1. You can't blame the manager for a transfer policy he has no say in. 2. Pardew is frequently accused of making strange tactical decisions, but I'd suggest they are strange because they are directed from above by Ashley and Charnley. Ask yourself, is Cisse being forced into the team in weird positions because the 11-12 manager of the season is tactically illiterate, or is it perhaps because the board is keen to ship him off to Russia, so cynically insists he must start to put him in the shop window. 3. Even still, I just can't bring myself to call for the head of a manager who has to work under Ashley. 1. He knew exactly what he signed up for and he's consistently defended that policy. 2. Do you think Ashley instructed Pardew to have his team launch more long balls than any other top-flight team in Europe's 5 best leagues last season? Do you think Ashley wants Shola Ameobi shipped off to Russia as well and that's why he's been played as a winger at times? Do you think Ashley loves left-backs in every position? 3. "Has to"? He could have walked on the numerous of times he's been royally f***ed by Ashley. He has no logical reason to be at this level, he was picked out of the f***ing League One dumpster and knows this isn't his level. Shola is starting games because we've consistently failed to sign a centre forward for the last three transfer windows. I'm not saying Ashley picks the team outright, I'm just saying I think boardroom influence should be factored in when judging Pardew, because our board probably cares more about getting an extra million poind for Cisse than having a team that is performing well. If your opinion is he still shit in spite of that, then thats fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 That could work if Pardew didn't have form for it at other clubs, Tevez on the wing at Wham for example. He's just a rank bang average manager who has no idea how to attack so he sets up to not let goals in (unsuccessfully as we've seen), by using players who work hard, but in roles that don't suit them, Sissoko, Gouff etc. And on top of it and why we notice it how much of a w***** he is, is the deflection of all blame from himself and the stream of lies. And absolutely not in the realms of bollockholm would i want the utter c*** to have another day as our manager, god forbid another season. Welcome by the way... That is a fair point actually. Like I said, I wouldn't miss Pardew if hes gone. I don't think hes anything special, but he has shown, sporadically, some talent in his time at Newcastle. I'd take him other than whichever 90s relic Ashley might have lined up as a replacement. Yes welcome btw. But don't expect that fan bollocks on Facebook to get a clean pass here. I'm such a soft shite I can't bring myself to lay into managers or players. Hence the username. I dont think he's shown any talent, he had Ba getting goals, then Cisse, Cabaye to tick it over. Now he hasn't got them so he's fucked. The sign of a good manager is one who gets the best out of all his players, not just ones he sees as special who give him one bit of magic. At no stage under him have we been consistent, or had any real pattern of play. Our set pieces are embarrassing and right there is your first alarm bell. No decent manager who still be hoying free kicks in from 60 yards when they haven't worked once, or still have the same corner to Willo without success. It's just poor coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 1. You can't blame the manager for a transfer policy he has no say in. 2. Pardew is frequently accused of making strange tactical decisions, but I'd suggest they are strange because they are directed from above by Ashley and Charnley. Ask yourself, is Cisse being forced into the team in weird positions because the 11-12 manager of the season is tactically illiterate, or is it perhaps because the board is keen to ship him off to Russia, so cynically insists he must start to put him in the shop window. 3. Even still, I just can't bring myself to call for the head of a manager who has to work under Ashley. 1. He knew exactly what he signed up for and he's consistently defended that policy. 2. Do you think Ashley instructed Pardew to have his team launch more long balls than any other top-flight team in Europe's 5 best leagues last season? Do you think Ashley wants Shola Ameobi shipped off to Russia as well and that's why he's been played as a winger at times? Do you think Ashley loves left-backs in every position? 3. "Has to"? He could have walked on the numerous of times he's been royally f***ed by Ashley. He has no logical reason to be at this level, he was picked out of the f***ing League One dumpster and knows this isn't his level. Shola is starting games because we've consistently failed to sign a centre forward for the last three transfer windows. I'm not saying Ashley picks the team outright, I'm just saying I think boardroom influence should be factored in when judging Pardew, because our board probably cares more about getting an extra million poind for Cisse than having a team that is performing well. If your opinion is he still s*** in spite of that, then thats fair enough. Welcome btw Our boardroom seemingly intervened to prohibit Pardew from playing James Perch in centre-mid more and are now reluctant to give Ameobi an extension in spite of Pardew's wishes to the contrary. I think they're limiting his damage rather than anything else when it comes to team selections. Ameobi up front is one thing (still inexplicable), playing him on the wing disqualifies Pardew as a thinking life-form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I was wondering if this is Brett's brother, as of yet still uneducated in the ways of Pardew. Dear god bimpy they're fuckin everywhere. Appeasers, aplologists and all utterly culpable in our plight.......... We honestly deserve Ashley and his minnions when you read some of the subservient crap spouted by our 'soopa fans'. It's not disloyal to rebel against a corrupt state of affairs, it's the act of loyalty not betrayal to rally against the unjust and tyranous. Pardew is Ashley. Charnely is Ashley, just as Llambias was, as Wise was.. He is the same. He is a disease. An utter corrupt, disease of a human. he is not our 'manager'. He is the regimes fuck toy, and willingly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 People that defend Pardew always reckon their views provide balance. That would be the case if they carried any weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 1. You can't blame the manager for a transfer policy he has no say in. 2. Pardew is frequently accused of making strange tactical decisions, but I'd suggest they are strange because they are directed from above by Ashley and Charnley. Ask yourself, is Cisse being forced into the team in weird positions because the 11-12 manager of the season is tactically illiterate, or is it perhaps because the board is keen to ship him off to Russia, so cynically insists he must start to put him in the shop window. 3. Even still, I just can't bring myself to call for the head of a manager who has to work under Ashley. 1. He knew exactly what he signed up for and he's consistently defended that policy. 2. Do you think Ashley instructed Pardew to have his team launch more long balls than any other top-flight team in Europe's 5 best leagues last season? Do you think Ashley wants Shola Ameobi shipped off to Russia as well and that's why he's been played as a winger at times? Do you think Ashley loves left-backs in every position? 3. "Has to"? He could have walked on the numerous of times he's been royally f***ed by Ashley. He has no logical reason to be at this level, he was picked out of the f***ing League One dumpster and knows this isn't his level. Shola is starting games because we've consistently failed to sign a centre forward for the last three transfer windows. I'm not saying Ashley picks the team outright, I'm just saying I think boardroom influence should be factored in when judging Pardew, because our board probably cares more about getting an extra million poind for Cisse than having a team that is performing well. If your opinion is he still s*** in spite of that, then thats fair enough. Oh boy ... no way man, no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I was wondering if this is Brett's brother, as of yet still uneducated in the ways of Pardew. Dear god bimpy they're fuckin everywhere. Appeasers, aplologists and all utterly culpable in our plight.......... We honestly deserve Ashley and his minnions when you read some of the subservient crap spouted by our 'soopa fans'. It's not disloyal to rebel against a corrupt state of affairs, it's the act of loyalty not betrayal to rally against the unjust and tyranous. Pardew is Ashley. Charnely is Ashley, just as Llambias was, as Wise was.. He is the same. He is a disease. An utter corrupt, disease of a human. he is not our 'manager'. He is the regimes fuck toy, and willingly so. Well aye GB. Personally i just don't see why people can't understand that just because Ashley is horrible, it's doesn't mean Pardew has to play hoofball, or play Shola, or leave out Marv, Hatem, MYM. Truly baffled by the argument that we're crap at fooball because of Ashley and not Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Goodness me. Welcome, Alyosha. But I don't think any of us are willing to go over all these same points again, everything you're bringing up has been discussed to death for the last 2+ years. Even when we finished "fivf" people were complaining about the talentless hack. A manager of the year award doesn't prove shite. And if your username is some sort of allusion to The Brothers Karamazov, I would argue Alyosha would have staunchly been against Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There are no conditions under which starting Shola Ameobi at all, let alone ahead of Ben Arfa, Sylvain Marveaux or pretty much anyone else is even remotely, microscopically acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/bihQ2Z8.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Welcome and the very best of luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Coming into this forum being sympathetic to Pardew is akin to being transported forward in time and trying to convince people the earth is flat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I can't even comprehend any of the points tbh. They don't make the slightest bit of sense. Welcome though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that I actually demand he gets loads of abuse, just to make it fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 All the recent trouble to score goals, and we still have never played Gouffran upfront. Ever. Despite him being prolific in France the last two seasons. But guess what? He won't hesitate to play Cisse on the wing, or Anita on the wing, or Sissoko on the wing! Pardew is so garbage it's untrue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that You're right. Apologies. Fucking fed up of nonsense from our own fans, though. It's tough hating the owner, the MD, the manager, most of the players and a massive percentage of the fans. There's barely owt left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that You're right. Apologies. Fucking fed up of nonsense from our own fans, though. It's tough hating the owner, the MD, the manager, most of the players and a massive percentage of the fans. There's barely owt left. Hate leads to the dark side, Ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that I actually demand he gets loads of abuse, just to make it fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Another cretin. Quality. No need for that You're right. Apologies. Fucking fed up of nonsense from our own fans, though. It's tough hating the owner, the MD, the manager, most of the players and a massive percentage of the fans. There's barely owt left. Hate leads to the dark side, Ronaldo. When it's sufficiently provoked it just means I don't have to check for a pair of bollocks, W. See your point, though. I don't want to hate, but there's no alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Bigi on the wing was the best. All the recent trouble to score goals, and we still have never played Gouffran upfront. Ever. Despite him being prolific in France the last two seasons. But guess what? He won't hesitate to play Cisse on the wing, or Anita on the wing, or Sissoko on the wing! Pardew is so garbage it's untrue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Can't create a pardew out campaign getting local and national publicity to the site then complain when new people sign up and have different opinions tbh. They need schooling, it's a public service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Can't create a pardew out campaign getting local and national publicity to the site then complain when new people sign up and have different opinions tbh. They need schooling, it's a public service. Half of that post was very fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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