Hughesy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I thought the biggest point about the Europa League is the preparation time it takes away. Instead of training all week for a Premier League match, you have to prepare for a Europa League match. So you fly on a Wednesday, play on a Thursday, fly back after the game or on a Friday, and play a PL game on a Sunday. Your 5 day match preparation for a PL match is reduced to perhaps 2 days. That surely makes a difference. It never did for a positive manager like Sir Bobby. Aye. Didn't loose a single game after returning from Europe in all of 2002/03. That's because Robson was a class act and Pardew isn't. It does, however, remain a valid point and one that many managers who aren't Pardew have suffered with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I thought the biggest point about the Europa League is the preparation time it takes away. Instead of training all week for a Premier League match, you have to prepare for a Europa League match. So you fly on a Wednesday, play on a Thursday, fly back after the game or on a Friday, and play a PL game on a Sunday. Your 5 day match preparation for a PL match is reduced to perhaps 2 days. That surely makes a difference. And home game where you dont travel at all, and when you change 9 starting line up players. So Pardew and his staff couldn't prepare for two games in a week, something virtually every team in the leagues below us do year in year out. I am guessing that the same sort of analysis isn't put in by teams in the leagues below. I am not sure that is relevant point. The point is that there are plenty of teams in the PL who don't have to play the extra games and those that do might have the squads and backroom staff to cope with the demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because Robson was a class act and Pardew isn't. It does, however, remain a valid point and one that many managers who aren't Pardew have suffered with. This is all I've ever claimed. Absolutely Pardew is average and Bobby was a class apart. But it just seems self-evident to me that playing in Europe is harder than not playing in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 No but I never said they did. Is that not the implication, we were s*** because of injuries. Injuries were a factor in us falling away from 5th, and indeed playing in the Europa would have had an effect. But the main reason we finished 16th was the awful football Pardew had us playing. Cant be said this season as we are playing much better stuff, 2nd half nonsense on too many occasions aside. So Swansea play nicer football but they are in literally the exact same position we were in? I'm not saying we were shit because of injuries alone but it would be churlish to deny our squad fitness was an issue just as it would be to deny there were a myriad of factors involved in our struggle - the managers ability obviously one of them. I'm not denying it was a factor, injuries, Europa but mainly it was his inability to deal with it, and the poor football and team selections were the major cause imo. Also as many have commented, our worse form was when the Europa League was on a break. And seeing as we'd been knocked out of both cups all he had was one game to focus on each week. We were terrible and lost game after game. Personally if we make it into the Europa again i think he'll handle it much better. But to try to use it as the main reason for finishing 16th shows how pathetic he can be at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I thought the biggest point about the Europa League is the preparation time it takes away. Instead of training all week for a Premier League match, you have to prepare for a Europa League match. So you fly on a Wednesday, play on a Thursday, fly back after the game or on a Friday, and play a PL game on a Sunday. Your 5 day match preparation for a PL match is reduced to perhaps 2 days. That surely makes a difference. And home game where you dont travel at all, and when you change 9 starting line up players. So Pardew and his staff couldn't prepare for two games in a week, something virtually every team in the leagues below us do year in year out. I am guessing that the same sort of analysis isn't put in by teams in the leagues below. I am not sure that is relevant point. The point is that there are plenty of teams in the PL who don't have to play the extra games and those that do might have the squads and backroom staff to cope with the demands. That's a valid point, we have a very small backroom staff for a Premiership club of our size. Mind you we're always being told we're not a big club by Pardew so i suppose that's why that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 we're always being told we're not a big club by Pardew so i suppose that's why that is. A kitten dies every time someone makes a post like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 we're always being told we're not a big club by Pardew so i suppose that's why that is. A kitten dies every time someone makes a post like this. Has he said we cant complete with Southampton ? Or Swansea ? If so, what do you think he means by that. Actually dont bother. Pardew arselicking crumpet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 we're always being told we're not a big club by Pardew so i suppose that's why that is. A kitten dies every time someone makes a post like this. Has he said we cant complete with Southampton ? Or Swansea ? If so, what do you think he means by that. Actually dont bother. Pardew arselicking crumpet. Soz bimpy, you know I like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 we're always being told we're not a big club by Pardew so i suppose that's why that is. A kitten dies every time someone makes a post like this. Has he said we cant complete with Southampton ? Or Swansea ? If so, what do you think he means by that. Actually dont bother. Pardew arselicking crumpet. Soz bimpy, you know I like you. It's why i like you Ian, you take a joke, you give a joke. Proper bloke like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fucking minging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fucking minging. Get on board man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The attitude comes from the top. Simple as. Again though - it's just reality. Since you're one of Pardew's biggest apologists on this forum and think he's doing a grand job, then you should be very happy with the board for appointing this cup surrendering cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fucking minging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 of those charts with all the injuries, i wonder just how many days in the totals ryan taylor takes up? and he should never be anywhere near the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Excellent little microcosm of the thread, this page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Excellent little microcosm of the thread, this page was just thinking that myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've missed this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 This place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pardew always being singled out for talking down the club so just posting this for info - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25866676 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Let's see if their performance is anywhere near as humiliating as ours was, then it's maybe the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pardew always being singled out for talking down the club so just posting this for info - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25866676 Martinez doesn't do that nearly every week like Pardew does and i would say that is to put pressure on Stevenage, not give himself and his team an excuse if they lose. Jesus, do people still not accept what our manager does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Not to mention, they will in all likelihood go through by..you know...playing good football in a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pardew always being singled out for talking down the club so just posting this for info - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25866676 Martinez doesn't do that nearly every week like Pardew does and i would say that is to put pressure on Stevenage, not give himself and his team an excuse if they lose. Jesus, do people still not accept what our manager does. Martinez on Monday: "The second half I must admit the condition of the pitch didn't allow us to control the game in the way we wanted, to concede the goal in the manner that we did was unfortunate." Pathetic excuses nearly every day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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