TRC Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Nailed on we get stuffed and the cunt doesn't get sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He's survived 3 derby defeats in a row, dragging the best squad we've had in years in to a relegation battle, a 6-0 humping at home, broke defeats, no goals, most goals conceded records all over the shop. Getting beat off villa won't change owt, just adds to the home run from hell which will be forgotten about in the summer when Ashley counts his money . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 One of Pardew's biggest failings has been his inability to improve players. If the club's policy is to buy cheap and sell high, then they are struggling with that. I would have thought Ashley would have serious concerns about the lack of development in the talented players we have. Ben Arfa was supposed to be the "crown jewels" and now people are saying we would be lucky to get £5m for him when the club would have been expecting £20m+. Several other players have not kicked on as expected e.g. Santon, Sissoko, MYM and Cisse. OK the exception was Cabaye but last season, he didn't look like a £20m player. When Ashley has reduced the club's potential for increasing revenue to just the TV money and player sales, he has a major problem if one of those areas is not working. I could imagine that he is looking to sell at least one player for a big profit each year to fund transfers and there's only been Carroll so far and now Cabaye. If the players are genuinely disillusioned with Pardew and there were also rumours of that being the case last season as well, Ashley will need to act. I have been hanging my hat on this for over a year now. I'm just surprised Ashley hasn't acted already. Tiote went from a £15m player to one many on here would have been glad to get shot of for £3m last season. I can see Sissoko going the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 In my opinion the media are on to him now. Last year he had the excuse of the top 5 finished the season before and the Europa league. This year loads of managers have gone and the media need to pressure someone else, our results are slipping with plenty of tough fixtures yet to come, easy target. This could be good news for us, I mean maybe now our regular fans start getting on his back as well, it may also panic Ashley in to the thought that he risks losing his investments if the club keeps dropping league places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 tbh if we finish 8th or 9th then, looking at the teams above us, the media will probably conclude, rightly, that we did OK. Everton and Southampton overperformed a bit, Spurs, Liverpool, the Manchesters and Chelsea have way better sides / squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 tbh if we finish 8th or 9th then, looking at the teams above us, the media will probably conclude, rightly, that we did OK. Everton and Southampton overperformed a bit, Spurs, Liverpool, the Manchesters and Chelsea have way better sides / squads. Absolute bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 tbh if we finish 8th or 9th then, looking at the teams above us, the media will probably conclude, rightly, that we did OK. Everton and Southampton overperformed a bit, Spurs, Liverpool, the Manchesters and Chelsea have way better sides / squads. Who gives a shit what the media conclude? I've got the Sunday Supplement recorded but I'll be deleting it without watching. If I want to listen to clueless nonsense about football I'd start a discussion with the wife. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 An interesting point, and deftly made, but they bloody will Arsenal Man City Man Utd Chelsea Liverpool Spurs What sensible neutral would suggest we'd probably finish above any of them? 7th would've been the most optimistic prediction you could reasonably have mustered at the start of the season. Southampton and Everton each had incredible runs, so that puts us in a fight for the places between 7th and 9th. C'est comme ça. Which of those sides do you think we're stronger than? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://www.tsmplug.com/football/premier-league-player-salaries-club-by-club/ More evidence for the fact that we are roughly the 8th strongest team in the division. Not that we really need more evidence because it really is embarrassingly obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would be very surprised if our wage bill is £64 million for this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 tbh if we finish 8th or 9th then, looking at the teams above us, the media will probably conclude, rightly, that we did OK. Everton and Southampton overperformed a bit, Spurs, Liverpool, the Manchesters and Chelsea have way better sides / squads. Absolute bollocks. Bollocks indeed. A: the media have got the knives out for him - he treated them arrogantly when the going was good and he's since colluded in the local paper ban, so he has zero leeway with them now. B: finishing eighth or ninth with the quality of players he has and no Europa League to contend with is - at very best - the absolute least he could be expected to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/mar/27/newcastle-second-profit-wages-rise + a couple of ins and outs. Not far off I bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sunday Supplement journalists crying for Pardew, because this is all down to Cabaye being sold. Give me a friggin break!!! Apparently he's had a very difficult job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He's done a fantastic job according to some cunt on Sunday supplement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Cant stand to listen to this. Not even discussing results or how we play. Farcical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 tbh if we finish 8th or 9th then, looking at the teams above us, the media will probably conclude, rightly, that we did OK. Everton and Southampton overperformed a bit, Spurs, Liverpool, the Manchesters and Chelsea have way better sides / squads. Absolute bollocks. Bollocks indeed. A: the media have got the knives out for him - he treated them arrogantly when the going was good and he's since colluded in the local paper ban, so he has zero leeway with them now. B: finishing eighth or ninth with the quality of players he has and no Europa League to contend with is - at very best - the absolute least he could be expected to do. I think it's about exactly what he could be expected to do, i.e; to drop below 9th would represent a bit of a let-down and to break into the top 6 would mean we'd out-performed a stronger team. 8th or 9th doesn't sound great but when you look at the teams above us and the money they've spent to be there, it's our natural level - for now. I'm not saying we should be content with it in the long term, that we shouldn't spend, or any of that, which is a whole other discussion. Just that, right now, we are about the 7th, 8th or 9th strongest side in the league in terms of personnel so finishing somewhere in those places should neither be a surprise or a huge disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 We'll be in the bottom four this time next year if Pardew gets sacked supposedly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yeah the style of play etc is also a whole other discussion. I don't enjoy unadventurous 4-4-2's any more than the next man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. Yeah that is fucking insane. If I had to guess where we'd be if we sacked Pardew I'd say, oooh, 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 http://www.tsmplug.com/football/premier-league-player-salaries-club-by-club/ More evidence for the fact that we are roughly the 8th strongest team in the division. Not that we really need more evidence because it really is embarrassingly obvious. Sunderland 3 Newcastle 0. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. Probably based on this time last season when we were in the bottom five. Er, wait a minute... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 edit; re "3 - 0" Sorry but in the context of this discussion, so fucking what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we sack Pardew, we'll be in the bottom 4 this time next season apparently Based on what? These guys are ridiculous. Probably based on this time last season when we were in the bottom five. Er, wait a minute... what are they actually basing it on? I'm in Croatia, can't watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 edit; re "3 - 0" Sorry but in the context of this discussion, so fucking what In the context of being a Geordie it means Pardew should get binned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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