mrmojorisin75 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 maybe his request for a personal hearing is to make the ban 20 matches, but only applicable to games vs. sunderland that'd do me, seeing as he's not likely to get fired or executed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Aren't you the one who's being anal by insisting it's a "nudge with his head"? It was a terrible nut, but whatever, this reaction was always going to happen when a manager places his head onto an opposing players' chin in an aggressive and forceful manner, but not necessarily with enough force to cause any major damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It was worse than I expected when I got around to seeing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Aren't you the one who's being anal by insisting it's a "nudge with his head"? It was a terrible nut, but whatever, this reaction was always going to happen when a manager places his head onto an opposing players' chin in an aggressive and forceful manner, but not necessarily with enough force to cause any major damage. I suppose this is the perfect example of people seeing something differently The reaction I got from 'real life' mates and work colleagues was laughter rather than horror though. It certainly wasn't MOTD style hyperbole where he had brought disgrace to the game and should be fired immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is all a bit hilarious like. I laugh every time it's shown on TV, more for the fact that I still can't believe he actually did it. Ridiculous man. Pushing someone is assault isn't it? I don't remember assault being screamed at Meyler. When have you ever seen a player sent off for a push? It's incredibly rare if ever, many times the referee wouldn't even give a yellow card. What Pardew did would be a red card in any context within football. There's a massive gulf in seriousness between the 2, even if you can conclude that both actions are equally as harmless. Pardew commited an offence that would see a player banned for 3 games. No other manager has ever done anything like that on these shores, certainly not in this decade. Maybe people are going OTT but it's expected imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is all a bit hilarious like. I laugh every time it's shown on TV, more for the fact that I still can't believe he actually did it. Ridiculous man. Pushing someone is assault isn't it? I don't remember assault being screamed at Meyler. When have you ever seen a player sent off for a push? It's incredibly rare if ever, many times the referee wouldn't even give a yellow card. What Pardew did would be a red card in any context within football. There's a massive gulf in seriousness between the 2, even if you can conclude that both actions are equally as harmless. Pardew commited an offence that would see a player banned for 3 games. No other manager has ever done anything like that on these shores, certainly not in this decade. Maybe people are going OTT but it's expected imo. The point was both could be described as something which in reality seems a bit over the top. I completely agree Pardew deserves a massive, massive ban. He knows the rules and as you say he is the manager so his punishment should be more severe than those on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is all a bit hilarious like. I laugh every time it's shown on TV, more for the fact that I still can't believe he actually did it. Ridiculous man. Pushing someone is assault isn't it? I don't remember assault being screamed at Meyler. It is just over the top to me. If you want to be anal then yes he did nut/headbutt him but really we all know it was a nudge with his head and if you had heard about it before seeing it you would be expecting something a lot worse. I am quite looking for the thread to be updated saying he will be banned for the rest of the season, I even have pointless hope that it will be updated saying he has been fired. I just wish we still had a Sunderland match left this season because we might have stood a chance. Cajun, it's the most dangerous thing I've seen on a football field for many years. He could have been killed. Pardew should be banned for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 When I heard about it I expected to see Meyler getting in Pardew's face and him reacting by moving his head towards him. Instead he chased after him and nutted him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nobody I've spoken to in person is as outraged as anyone on the internet or in the media. Most people seem to see it how Cajun does. Me too obviously. Not that it matters, he's obviously in line for a decent ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just because he Pardewed it and landed the most ridiculously soft headbutt and ended up looking like he was trying to kiss Meyler doesn't excuse from the fact that he attempted to assault an opposition player. As a manager you are expected to maintain higher standards of behaviour than those on the pitch - standards that have been lacking from this man on a number of occasions - which is why the FA will quite rightly throw the book at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nobody I've spoken to in person is as outraged as anyone on the internet or in the media. Most people seem to see it how Cajun does. Me too obviously. Not that it matters, he's obviously in line for a decent ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I like how "outrage", "hysterical" and their like are constantly thrown about by Ian, as if he's some kind of beacon of serenity. It's almost as if he's trying to play the opposing argument down to give his own some credence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nobody I've spoken to in person is as outraged as anyone on the internet or in the media. Most people seem to see it how Cajun does. Me too obviously. Not that it matters, he's obviously in line for a decent ban. Most of my friends aren't Newcastle fans and they were outraged. And they think he's a cunt of the highest order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nobody I've spoken to in person is as outraged as anyone on the internet or in the media. Most people seem to see it how Cajun does. Me too obviously. Not that it matters, he's obviously in line for a decent ban. Most of my mates just laughed about it and especially the media storm that followed. But I guess that's the English media for you. What he did was obviously wrong, and he deserves a heavy punishment, but it's been blown out of all proportions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I saw the reaction before the incident & I expected more. Your imagination always goes off when people react massively that's all. I can't separate real life that far from football to be OUTRAGED that a man walked up and nudged another's head. I just think he's a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 In terms of wording I wouldn't say people are outraged when things like this happen these days. My mates thoughts were more along the lines of 'jesus, a manager headbutting someone? What a fucking tit'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I haven't seen this posted. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/rob-lee-alan-pardew-lucky-6783304 Rob Lee: Alan Pardew is a lucky man to still be in a job – he received the minimum fine 7 Mar 2014 07:33 I have seen managers threaten to hit someone, but nobody ever actually did it, says Chronicle columnist Rob Lee A fine of £100,000 and a final warning from the big boss. That is the very minimum Alan Pardew should have expected last Saturday evening. If anything, the man got off lightly. He’s kidding himself to think otherwise. He so easily could have been sacked. He is undoubtedly an incredibly lucky man to still be in his job. I know a lot of people have said since Saturday, “I’ve never seen anything like that.” I would like to add my name to that number. I’ve seen managers throw things and make some serious threats in a dressing room. They don’t tend to go through with them. I have been thinking about this. I honestly can’t remember any manager actually grabbing hold of a player. Managers back in the day, when things were different, could turn the air blue with their language. They could talk of hitting someone in the middle of a massive argument, but they have all managed to reign themselves back in before things got silly. Kevn Keegan could be like that. I saw him really lose it once or twice. But he never crossed a line. Pardew crossed a line. I’ve seen some try to defend him. Do me a favour. David Meyler was trying to get the ball. His team were 3-1 down, so it’s only natural he wanted to take a throw-in quickly. Pardew got in his way. All Meyler did was give him a small push. Nothing more than a nudge. Big deal. It was easy for him to walk away. But he didn’t. And then the manager of Newcastle United pushed the Hull City player away with his head. That’s a headbutt, isn’t it? I received a text on Saturday afternoon, I was out at the time, from a pal who asked if I knew what had happened. He then told me. I couldn’t believe it. Like everyone, I watched Match of the Day on Saturday night so I could judge for myself what had and had not happened. That’s when I heard about the fine and I admit to being a bit shocked the club acted so quickly. Pardew got off lightly. He is a football manager. He’s not expected to get involved with opposition players. Ever. Billy Davies got a five-match touchline ban for swearing at a referee, something that happens all the time. It shouldn’t, it’s not nice, but it’s hardly a major incident. So Pardew can expect to be given possibly the biggest sentence ever handed down to a Premier League manager. Why does he do this? I honestly don’t know. He is always getting himself involved. Does he think this makes him appear more passionate because it doesn’t. I go back to Keegan. He was the most passionate man I ever met in football. He couldn’t hide a single emotion. He knew how to behave himself, right enough, and he was a volatile guy. Pardew now has a problem whenit comes to controlling the dressing room. How can he have a go at a player for fighting with a team-mate in training. What chance does he have of fining someone for a daft red card? They will turn around, look at their manager and say with some justification, “Why should you give me into bother after how you behaved?” So he now has to win back the dressing room. I don’t know what the players have been thinking about it all. When you are the manager of Newcastle United, you have to respect the club and other people in football. Pardew has fallen short of that a few times. What he did last Saturday was unacceptable. We are trying to make football better and that didn’t help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Completely agree with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Rob Lee being hysterical I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Rob Lee being hysterical I see. He clearly has no passion for us or football in general, why is he making a big deal out of a manager rubbing his head against a player? Pathetic from him, he should be embarrassed for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 You guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 You guys. Us and Rob Lee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Overwhelming feeling I have had on the whole incident is embarrasment. My club is being degraded and in turn, and by association we are being embarrassed, shamed and yet again made a laughing stock of by people who should be nowhere near our great club, fanbase or city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Rob Lee has basically said everything I have, apart from "It is a headbutt isn't it?", well yes technically it is but many things that happen in football could be classed as assault if you want to be pedantic but often it is seen as what it is. He even precedes it with "He pushed the player with his head". In regards to black and white glasses, I live about 40 miles north of London and haven't spoken to a Newcastle fan (away from the forum) about the incident. As said everyone has just found it funny, in the same way they thought Perch going down after Reina's 'attack' was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I haven't seen this posted. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/rob-lee-alan-pardew-lucky-6783304 Rob Lee: Alan Pardew is a lucky man to still be in a job – he received the minimum fine 7 Mar 2014 07:33 I have seen managers threaten to hit someone, but nobody ever actually did it, says Chronicle columnist Rob Lee A fine of £100,000 and a final warning from the big boss. That is the very minimum Alan Pardew should have expected last Saturday evening. If anything, the man got off lightly. He’s kidding himself to think otherwise. He so easily could have been sacked. He is undoubtedly an incredibly lucky man to still be in his job. I know a lot of people have said since Saturday, “I’ve never seen anything like that.” I would like to add my name to that number. I’ve seen managers throw things and make some serious threats in a dressing room. They don’t tend to go through with them. I have been thinking about this. I honestly can’t remember any manager actually grabbing hold of a player. Managers back in the day, when things were different, could turn the air blue with their language. They could talk of hitting someone in the middle of a massive argument, but they have all managed to reign themselves back in before things got silly. Kevn Keegan could be like that. I saw him really lose it once or twice. But he never crossed a line. Pardew crossed a line. I’ve seen some try to defend him. Do me a favour. David Meyler was trying to get the ball. His team were 3-1 down, so it’s only natural he wanted to take a throw-in quickly. Pardew got in his way. All Meyler did was give him a small push. Nothing more than a nudge. Big deal. It was easy for him to walk away. But he didn’t. And then the manager of Newcastle United pushed the Hull City player away with his head. That’s a headbutt, isn’t it? I received a text on Saturday afternoon, I was out at the time, from a pal who asked if I knew what had happened. He then told me. I couldn’t believe it. Like everyone, I watched Match of the Day on Saturday night so I could judge for myself what had and had not happened. That’s when I heard about the fine and I admit to being a bit shocked the club acted so quickly. Pardew got off lightly. He is a football manager. He’s not expected to get involved with opposition players. Ever. Billy Davies got a five-match touchline ban for swearing at a referee, something that happens all the time. It shouldn’t, it’s not nice, but it’s hardly a major incident. So Pardew can expect to be given possibly the biggest sentence ever handed down to a Premier League manager. Why does he do this? I honestly don’t know. He is always getting himself involved. Does he think this makes him appear more passionate because it doesn’t. I go back to Keegan. He was the most passionate man I ever met in football. He couldn’t hide a single emotion. He knew how to behave himself, right enough, and he was a volatile guy. Pardew now has a problem whenit comes to controlling the dressing room. How can he have a go at a player for fighting with a team-mate in training. What chance does he have of fining someone for a daft red card? They will turn around, look at their manager and say with some justification, “Why should you give me into bother after how you behaved?” So he now has to win back the dressing room. I don’t know what the players have been thinking about it all. When you are the manager of Newcastle United, you have to respect the club and other people in football. Pardew has fallen short of that a few times. What he did last Saturday was unacceptable. We are trying to make football better and that didn’t help. All this re-writing history. I just watched 4 more times on the internet. The ball rolls through Pardews legs, as he is lifting his leg out of the way to move aside, Meyler pushes him. As he had one leg off the ground moving aside Pardew was off balance and nearly fell completely. That section of the incident lasts 1 second on the video. That article states Pardew got in his way. Pardew didn`t have a chance to move. He didn`t move in front of Meyler or the ball. Its just the path the ball took. Most of what everybody says I agree with, but some facts have me doubting my own eyes. "Pardew got in his way" - Bollocks he was already standing there " Meyler nudged him" - Bollocks he pushed him off balance, a nudge does not make an adult move. "Pardew headbutted him" - Bollocks, the definition of a headbutt is with force, Pardew acted out a headbutt. "this is a first" - Its also the first time I have seen a player push a manager from an opposing team that hard. What I do agree with is that Pardew is not a good manager and he has disgraced our club again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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