Robster Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/4934-house.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Good. Don't. What I crave is a reasonable discussion, thanks. You should leave then. Pls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 88% want him sacked on the chronicle poll. Heartening I guess Its 89% now. With other chairman I think it would have made a difference, sadly with MA he couldn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Its so frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 88% want him sacked on the chronicle poll. Heartening I guess Its 89% now. With other chairman I think it would have made a difference, sadly with MA he couldn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Its so frustrating. Poll results online won't make any difference while the St James crowd are so passive. If the crowd were more vocal against Pardew you can bet the national press would sit up and start taking notice, but as it is no one even thinks there's an issue. They didn't even bother talking about us on MOTD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We don't register on MOTD because the remainder of our season constitutes a tussle for 8th / 9th. We're completely irrelevant to the title race or the relegation dogfight. SJP could be a cauldron of abuse and I still don't think it'd particularly show up on the MOTD radar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening The players have had enough of him, no fucker likes him at the club. He won't be here next year I'm almost certain of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening I felt he lost the players as soon as the January window shut without any players coming in. Looking at our squad I can`t think of any character in it to maybe instigate a player revolt, stir things up or put pressure on Pardew. The same as I don`t see a leader out there every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There doesn't have to be a clear leader in the squad for their relationship with the manager to break down beyond repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Been mentioned elsewhere but if these performances are the product of a motivated team who are behind their manager then how fucking bad is it going to get once he does lose them? Blatantly obvious they've quit on him. It's just prolonging the suffering now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There doesn't have to be a clear leader in the squad for their relationship with the manager to break down beyond repair. That's already apparent if you ask me, but to get someone to go to Ashley or the press. Anything really that usually gets a manager sacked just isn`t going to happen with the type of characters in our squad let alone someone man enough to make Ashley listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 To a certain extent I think they've just lost their motivation because there's nothing to play for. Not saying that's the be all and end all of it - clearly it's not - but we're certainly not the first team to have their form evaporate in these kind of circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There doesn't have to be a clear leader in the squad for their relationship with the manager to break down beyond repair. That's already apparent if you ask me, but to get someone to go to Ashley or the press. Anything really that usually gets a manager sacked just isn`t going to happen with the type of characters in our squad let alone someone man enough to make Ashley listen. I think information on that kind of thing would tend to seep throughout the club anyway. It doesn't take a player to complain or lead some kind of rebellion, it just becomes obvious. The squad doesn't exist in a bubble, they're surrounded by coaches and executives who can all see what's happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley's in a clandestine meeting with Laurier Sanchez right now. Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Been mentioned elsewhere but if these performances are the product of a motivated team who are behind their manager then how fucking bad is it going to get once he does lose them? Blatantly obvious they've quit on him. It's just prolonging the suffering now. debatable about if they've quit on him since pretty much the same thing was said last season and then there was the first half of this season when its clear they hadn't but what is clear is they've quit on the season and while Pardew has to take blame for failure to motivate them since we were safe its also a malaise that runs far deeper than just Pardew thats caused by Mike Ashley, there is no ambition at the club to better our current position and that spreads to the players who stop caring about the season when there's absolutely nothing to chase. The squad itself doesn't help as there is no leader at all in the dressing room or anyone who is even close to qualifying as one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening What evidence would prove this to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley's in a clandestine meeting with Laurier Sanchez right now. Seriously. He's in the dugout about to play Ergotelis as we speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening What evidence would prove this to you? Some kind of leak from the club perhaps, or him getting sacked for that reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Not the relegation form we're in then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm inclined to agree, but I think there might be a genuine chance he'll get the boot if this run continues. If he truly loses the players I can see it happening What evidence would prove this to you? A poor run of form, conceding a lot of goals, good players looking a shadow of their former selves...actually, hang on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If he gets sacked for losing the players then I'd agree that he could get the boot if this run continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Been mentioned elsewhere but if these performances are the product of a motivated team who are behind their manager then how fucking bad is it going to get once he does lose them? Blatantly obvious they've quit on him. It's just prolonging the suffering now. debatable about if they've quit on him since pretty much the same thing was said last season and then there was the first half of this season when its clear they hadn't but what is clear is they've quit on the season and while Pardew has to take blame for failure to motivate them since we were safe its also a malaise that runs far deeper than just Pardew thats caused by Mike Ashley, there is no ambition at the club to better our current position and that spreads to the players who stop caring about the season when there's absolutely nothing to chase. The squad itself doesn't help as there is no leader at all in the dressing room or anyone who is even close to qualifying as one. Loss of motivation with nothing to play for is one thing, getting hammered by 3's an 4's week in week out would suggest a more serious problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There was a huge bust-up with the players at the back end of last season, hence the Telegraph still being banned for reporting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 There was a huge bust-up with the players at the back end of last season, hence the Telegraph still being banned for reporting it. They aren't banned now IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Not the relegation form we're in then. Obviously it's pretty damning but we don't know for sure. In the past we've had terrible runs of form yet he's appeared to have kept the squad more or less content. It could just be that our season is effectively over so the players are phoning in their performances, or it could be that the players have genuinely abandoned the manager. I suspect it'll become clear one way or the other at some point soon, be it via a leak or some kind of decision / statement, but there's just not enough information to call it right now. The way we're playing I wouldn't be at all surprised if the team was on the verge of a mutiny mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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