Manchester United

[Cronky]

When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Cronky

[Ben]

3 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

I bet he's got a tap in his house aswell despite there being ponds near by, worra cunt.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

8 minutes ago, Menace said:

That’s what it’s all about 

[andycap]

I'd play

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[Hanshithispantz]

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[Menace]

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, Cronky said:

When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

 

Saw someone describe Amorim as the Matalan Mourinho. 

[David Edgar]

2 minutes ago, Menace said:

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

 

Rashford fails the "no dickheads" policy. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Roy Keane, Gary pallister, Gary Neville, Arthur Albiston, Steve Bruce, William prunier, Donny van de Beek, Alex Ferguson, your boys took a beating, a helluva beating 

 

[kingxlnc]

16 minutes ago, Cronky said:

When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

 

Yes Liverpool and West Ham both decided against

With West Ham's choice of managers, hardly a ringing endorsement

[Rod]

8 minutes ago, Menace said:

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

I've always thought the same.

[El Prontonise]

2 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Yes Liverpool and West Ham both decided against

With West Ham's choice of managers, hardly a ringing endorsement

 

I'm sure it was Amorim who turned West Ham down.

[Checko]

17 minutes ago, Menace said:

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

Or he'd Ryan Fraser him out of existence. Though harder to do when a player's on 300k plus per week.

[kingxlnc]

7 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

I'm sure it was Amorim who turned West Ham down.

You might be right - I cant remember tbh

[AyeDubbleYoo]

They’ve missed a few chances to have a reset and build a new team from a lower base - they (I guess understandably) kept trying to maintain a CL position with short term decisions. 

 

Difficult decisions to be made if they get into the relegation battle. Otherwise I guess they just write this season off and Amorim starts the job he actually wanted in summer.  

[Guybrush]

4 minutes ago, Checko said:

Or he'd Ryan Fraser him out of existence. Though harder to do when a player's on 300k plus per week.

We using Ryan Fraser as a verb now? 

[Nucasol]

10 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

 

Rashford fails the "no dickheads" policy. 

Moment he went on his tequila binge in Belfast was the reputation killer.

[Abacus]

Had a quick look at a Man U forum last night for a chuckle and a lot of the knee jerk reactions were about the danger of sleepwalking into a relegation battle, doubts about Ineos etc.

 

A defeat always brings out the pessimists where the world is ending on any forum, so that's all taken with a hefty shovel of salt, since there is no chance of them being relegated or even close.

 

After an expected loss to Liverpool though, the pressure to then beat Southampton would become pretty big.

 

Not because they'd be in any real danger still, but more how the club, players and some fans might react if they somehow lost that one. Any daft early sacking of Amorim would hugely undermine Berrada too.

 

Ah well, enough of this, back to my team.

[astraguy]

Haven't seen @brummie since Thursday, will @Froggy be the same?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 minutes ago, Abacus said:

Had a quick look at a Man U forum last night for a chuckle and a lot of the knee jerk reactions were about the danger of sleepwalking into a relegation battle, doubts about Ineos etc.

 

A defeat always brings out the pessimists where the world is ending on any forum, so that's all taken with a hefty shovel of salt, since there is no chance of them being relegated or even close.

 

After an expected loss to Liverpool though, the pressure to then beat Southampton would become pretty big.

 

Not because they'd be in any real danger still, but more how the club, players and some fans might react if they somehow lost that one. Any daft early sacking of Amorim would hugely undermine Berrada too.

 

Ah well, enough of this, back to my team.

I wouldn’t say that’s knee-jerk, it’s because they’ve been playing bad and losing for ages. 

[Nucasol]

8 minutes ago, astraguy said:

Haven't seen @brummie since Thursday, will @Froggy be the same?

To be fair @Froggy fronted up. Respect to him. 

[Abacus]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I wouldn’t say that’s knee-jerk, it’s because they’ve been playing bad and losing for ages. 

 

True, but I also think they don't have experience of just how bad you need to be to get relegated.

 

It would be quite the feather in Sir Jim's cap if he somehow against all odds managed it though.

[Froggy]

12 minutes ago, astraguy said:

Haven't seen @brummie since Thursday, will @Froggy be the same?

 

50 years into the future, when people don't even use the internet anymore, I'll still be on here rambling away to myself about Ten Hag's epic cup wins.

[Nucasol]

There’s nothing going to be funnier when Brexit Jim turns on his chino wearing, doping designing bike nonce Brailsford. Only a matter of time before the Ineos lot start devouring each other.

[astraguy]

4 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

To be fair @Froggy fronted up. Respect to him. 

Ah missed those post's, reading them now i like reading his views