The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 10:49 Share Posted yesterday at 10:49 Fernandes is a great player for a bad team. I’m not sure he’ll be great in a great team - unless he’s the main man. He would terrorise Serie A. But he’s not a Real or Barca player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 10:58 Share Posted yesterday at 10:58 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Fernandes is a great player for a bad team. I’m not sure he’ll be great in a great team - unless he’s the main man. He would terrorise Serie A. But he’s not a Real or Barca player Yeah he might not cut it in Spain. He only managed two hat tricks against Spanish sides this season. He walks into whatever side he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 12:48 Share Posted yesterday at 12:48 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Yeah he might not cut it in Spain. He only managed two hat tricks against Spanish sides this season. He walks into whatever side he wants. He’s not good enough for Real or Barca. His all or nothing style of play wouldn’t translate well in an elite side as part of a team that he’s not the best player of. Loses the ball too much and can’t carry it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 12:52 Share Posted yesterday at 12:52 Just now, The College Dropout said: He’s not good enough for Real or Barca. His all or nothing style of play wouldn’t translate well in an elite side as part of a team that he’s not the best player of. Loses the ball too much and can’t carry it. He can do everything to an elite level. At Real or Barca there would be a lot more quality around him so he wouldn't be forcing the play as much as he has to now, and wouldn't lose the ball anywhere near as much. It's quite easy to see he would piss it in Spain at Real or Barca. All you need is some eyes. Maybe even one eye would do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted yesterday at 13:05 Share Posted yesterday at 13:05 he would be the main creator in either of Barca or Madrid’s sides I think. I can’t believe he’s wasted this much of his career playing for Man U tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:08 Share Posted yesterday at 13:08 2 minutes ago, Smal said: he would be the main creator in either of Barca or Madrid’s sides I think. I can’t believe he’s wasted this much of his career playing for Man U tbh. He's still the captain and best player at one of the biggest clubs in the world on £300k a week. He's regularly played in Europe and won a couple of trophies. It hasn't been a hard life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted yesterday at 13:10 Share Posted yesterday at 13:10 Of course he cant do ”everything” elite level Froggy and you know it very well. His attacking ability is excellent, he creates loads of opportunities and has a great shot in him. But he is not very good defensively and not a ball carrier. of course he would do well at Real, like Bruno G would. There would be so much talent around him. He wouldn’t walk in Real or Barca, but neither would be weaker with him starting I would say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted yesterday at 13:13 Share Posted yesterday at 13:13 He’s a brilliant player, has pretty much the best range of passing and crossing in the league, has great vision, strikes the ball exceptionally well. I wouldn’t say he’s bad at carrying the ball but his strengths are all about how he moves the ball on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted yesterday at 13:15 Share Posted yesterday at 13:15 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: He's still the captain and best player at one of the biggest clubs in the world on £300k a week. He's regularly played in Europe and won a couple of trophies. It hasn't been a hard life. I bet he expected much more though. The money is great but after a couple of years how much more money does he really need. I can't stand the prick but he's undoubtedly a great footballer. The trophies he's won with Manchester aren't the ones he'd hoped to be lifting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted yesterday at 13:17 Share Posted yesterday at 13:17 6 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Of course he cant do ”everything” elite level Froggy and you know it very well. His attacking ability is excellent, he creates loads of opportunities and has a great shot in him. But he is not very good defensively and not a ball carrier. of course he would do well at Real, like Bruno G would. There would be so much talent around him. He wouldn’t walk in Real or Barca, but neither would be weaker with him starting I would say. This. I’d also say that he is massively inconsistent and lets his head drop too frequently for elite clubs to consider him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:19 Share Posted yesterday at 13:19 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: He’s a brilliant player, has pretty much the best range of passing and crossing in the league, has great vision, strikes the ball exceptionally well. I wouldn’t say he’s bad at carrying the ball but his strengths are all about how he moves the ball on He's excellent at carrying the ball. He's 90th percentile among midfielders for progressive carries per 90 in the league. As you said, his main strength is his range of passing and we usually have pacey strikers or wingers playing off him, so the gameplan is never carrying the ball towards the opponents box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:20 Share Posted yesterday at 13:20 2 minutes ago, Stifler said: This. I’d also say that he is massively inconsistent and lets his head drop too frequently for elite clubs to consider him. Is the massive inconsistency in the room with us Stifler? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:24 Share Posted yesterday at 13:24 (edited) Sorry, maybe you meant he's inconsistent in European football. Or maybe International football? Edited yesterday at 13:24 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted yesterday at 13:24 Share Posted yesterday at 13:24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stifler said: This. I’d also say that he is massively inconsistent and lets his head drop too frequently for elite clubs to consider him. Strongly disagree, think he is massively consistent and somehow never gets injured either despite playing more minutes than most. Edited yesterday at 13:26 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted yesterday at 13:25 Share Posted yesterday at 13:25 15 minutes ago, Froggy said: He's still the captain and best player at one of the biggest clubs in the world very questionable whether you have been that whilst he's been at the club tbh. He'd have had a better career if he'd just done a couple of seasons as a springboard to someone like a Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Liverpool or City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted yesterday at 13:25 Share Posted yesterday at 13:25 Just now, Froggy said: Sorry, maybe you meant he's inconsistent in European football. Or maybe International football? I see one poor Nations League campaign there tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted yesterday at 13:26 Share Posted yesterday at 13:26 He's a great player whom is so obnoxious no fan of another club will ever give him credit. He's been carrying that team for ages. I do wonder if he likes getting the best player in the team and would disappear in a system led team with others of his talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted yesterday at 13:26 Share Posted yesterday at 13:26 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: Is the massive inconsistency in the room with us Stifler? The thing is those stats prove nothing other than he has talent. I don’t doubt that he does, but what you’re showing there is that he can have a poor game and come up with something within the game. It’s no good popping up with a goal or assist if your overall performance has lead to your team losing 2 goals. Look at this season, he’s scored 8 goals, and assisted 10 times, how’s that worked out for Man Utd in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:27 Share Posted yesterday at 13:27 1 minute ago, Smal said: very questionable whether you have been that whilst he's been at the club tbh. He'd have had a better career if he'd just done a couple of seasons as a springboard to someone like a Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Liverpool or City. We have always been a huge club. The success just hasn't been there the last few years. Of course he'd have had a better career at those teams, but he stayed. if he ever wants to leave I'll never be annoyed at him for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted yesterday at 13:27 Share Posted yesterday at 13:27 1 minute ago, Pata said: Strongly disagree, think he is massively consistent and somehow never gets injured either. Yup. He's been their best player season after season, probably every year since he's been at Man Utd. Hardly ever being injured is part of it and if/when he leaves, he'll be a huge loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted yesterday at 13:28 Share Posted yesterday at 13:28 1 minute ago, Stifler said: The thing is those stats prove nothing other than he has talent. I don’t doubt that he does, but what you’re showing there is that he can have a poor game and come up with something within the game. It’s no good popping up with a goal or assist if your overall performance has lead to your team losing 2 goals. Look at this season, he’s scored 8 goals, and assisted 10 times, how’s that worked out for Man Utd in the league? They would’ve been close to a relegation without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 13:29 Share Posted yesterday at 13:29 Just now, Pata said: They would’ve been close to a relegation without him. He's probably top for us in tackles, clearances, ball recoveries etc. as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted yesterday at 13:32 Share Posted yesterday at 13:32 Just now, Pata said: Strongly disagree, think he is massively consistent and somehow never gets injured either. That's because nobody kicks him up the arse like they should do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted yesterday at 14:17 Share Posted yesterday at 14:17 56 minutes ago, Froggy said: Is the massive inconsistency in the room with us Stifler? Some drop off from his first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 14:48 Share Posted yesterday at 14:48 He’ll not go to Real or Barca and if he does he’ll be found out. I don’t expect he’ll be high on the list of those clubs. Maybe Inzaghi could work his magic with him or Conte. I don’t expect him to leave for a European club because most elite clubs will know better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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