NWMag Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Re the pressing we are going to have a lot of 3/4 day turnarounds so it could be intentional to reduce the amount per game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, NWMag said: Re the pressing we are going to have a lot of 3/4 day turnarounds so it could be intentional to reduce the amount per game But then we should have the personnel for a slower style of play. Or setup tactically for a more patient game. But we don't. Edited September 18, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) ---Bruno-Tonali--- Gordon-Isak-Barnes -------Wilson------- Edited September 18, 2023 by HawK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, HawK said: ---Brunto-Tonali--- Gordon-Isak-Barnes -------Wilson------- I like it but Think that would leave us a bit exposed. Mebbes one to try at home against a lesser team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Personnel has to be factored in too, replace Gordon/Tonali with a fit double Joe and those numbers improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Hot take, would it be completely crazy to suggest trying Trippier as a 6? He played as a CM all his youth career and he can certainly receive a ball in tight spaces and retain it far better than Longstaff. He's got the engine and the durability... passing range... Livramento in and a 3 in the middle of Trips, Tonali, Bruno... /tinhat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Trippier or Hall could both invert into midfield if that's what you mean. I don't think we have the midfielders to make a box midfield work though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HawK said: Hot take, would it be completely crazy to suggest trying Trippier as a 6? He played as a CM all his youth career and he can certainly receive a ball in tight spaces and retain it far better than Longstaff. He's got the engine and the durability... passing range... Livramento in and a 3 in the middle of Trips, Tonali, Bruno... /tinhat Should stick Bruno in nets and pope up front. That way Bruno can pick out Pope everyone who can flick it on for Gordon and almiron Edited September 21, 2023 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 18/09/2023 at 07:35, HawK said: ---Bruno-Tonali--- Gordon-Isak-Barnes -------Wilson------- I'm definitely intrigued by this although, except for maybe Miley, I'm not sure we have anyone else to swap in for Bruno/Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I'm definitely intrigued by this although, except for maybe Miley, I'm not sure we have anyone else to swap in for Bruno/Tonali. Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Longstaff. Ehhhhhh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Longstaff isn’t press resistant enough to be an effective 6, imo. Edited September 21, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, McCormick said: Longstaff isn’t press resistant enough to be an effective 6, imo. Agree. His first touch can be heavy and he's quite often rushed into making a mistake. He covers ground well so defensively he's solid enough, but he'll not be able to dictate play like Bruno does when he's on his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, McCormick said: Longstaff isn’t press resistant enough to be an effective 6, imo. Does he have to be? Casemiro often pushed up in build-up at Real Madrid if the press was high and Kroos would go deep to distribute under pressure. Remember when we all thought he was a good passer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 17/09/2023 at 23:15, NWMag said: Re the pressing we are going to have a lot of 3/4 day turnarounds so it could be intentional to reduce the amount per game Have seen this idea mentioned a few times. Obviously it makes sense with the extra fixtures but if that was the plan then I wish we'd maybe factored it into our summer transfer business a bit more. Looking at our midfielders and wingers, they all look like they're best suited to a high energy, pretty direct style of play. If we're not going to press and win the ball in advanced areas of the pitch, I'm not sure we have the players to unlock teams with a more measured build up. Right now, I think the squad really needs a creative midfielder. Be that an #8 in the current system who has a bit more craft on the ball (playing Bruno there is an option) or else changing the system to more of a 4-2-3-1, I think it's the main thing the squad needs as of right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Would genuinely just attempt at Tonali as the 6 and Bruno as the 8 next match. Bruno has the experience under Howe to know exactly where to be in the 8 role and Tonali could actually be told to simply play the 6 role as he acclimates to new surroundings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 So do you guys think we are set for the near future for centre mid? Providing no outgoings, then we have Bruno, Joelinton, Willock, Tonali, Longstaff, Anderson and then Miley coming along... That's 6/7 and all pretty young I'm just wondering as a lot of people still discuss us getting a DM/6, but surely in order to get one we'd neeed to sell one of the above, even if we got a young player happy to be on the bench, soon (and if all fit) we're already going to have 3 of those on the bench who will want/need regular minutes I wonder what out first choice midfield 3 will be in 6 months if they are all fit!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I don't think there is a "first choice" midfield 3 when all are available. I'd say it would all depend on the opposition and what's required in any specific circumstance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, janpawel said: So do you guys think we are set for the near future for centre mid? Providing no outgoings, then we have Bruno, Joelinton, Willock, Tonali, Longstaff, Anderson and then Miley coming along... That's 6/7 and all pretty young I'm just wondering as a lot of people still discuss us getting a DM/6, but surely in order to get one we'd neeed to sell one of the above, even if we got a young player happy to be on the bench, soon (and if all fit) we're already going to have 3 of those on the bench who will want/need regular minutes I wonder what out first choice midfield 3 will be in 6 months if they are all fit!! as we have some interchangeable players in the 5 behind the striker… Tonali Bruno Big Joe Little Joe Longstaff Gordon Barnes Miggy Murphy And then Anderson and Miley looking to break through, Minteh possibly coming into the fold next year. Looks a little heavy and slightly lopsided to me so wouldn’t be surprised to see one two leave in the summer. you can’t see many of the first 9 there being content with being a largely bench player mid-term Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Imagine how much higher it’d be if we didn’t have Burn, Cuntonali, Shitstaff, Murphy, Migrant Almiron, the rest of those utter fucking wasters and Trippier could take a fucking set piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Disco said: Imagine how much higher it’d be if we didn’t have Burn, Cuntonali, Shitstaff, Murphy, Migrant Almiron, the rest of those utter fucking wasters and Trippier could take a fucking set piece. Selling Nick Pope is key to all of this. Instant +5 attacking xG right there. +10 if we get Ramsdale as replacement and release Elliott Nothing too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 23:10, janpawel said: So do you guys think we are set for the near future for centre mid? Providing no outgoings, then we have Bruno, Joelinton, Willock, Tonali, Longstaff, Anderson and then Miley coming along... That's 6/7 and all pretty young I'm just wondering as a lot of people still discuss us getting a DM/6, but surely in order to get one we'd neeed to sell one of the above, even if we got a young player happy to be on the bench, soon (and if all fit) we're already going to have 3 of those on the bench who will want/need regular minutes I wonder what out first choice midfield 3 will be in 6 months if they are all fit!! I still think we need another passer in there. My guess is that player can also play wide - a Szob profile or more athletic Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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