Ronaldo Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hazard has been outstanding today, Ben Arfa should be given that sort of role in our side but he's surrounded by s*** players around him. Ben Arfa has less than half of Hazard's ability. That's not true whatsoever, he might not have the same drive, confidence and workrate, but he clearly doesn't have less than his footballing abilities ffs. I don't agree. Hazard's on a totally different level, you can guarantee him to produce the goods in the final third, even with he's tasked with a deeper, more workmanlike role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Matic is a big bastard. Beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has Wenger ever beaten Mourinho? No but in the league Mourinho has only beaten him twice there has been a lot of draws. None the less, its not like who ever wins that game would win the league. As always its about who is the most consistent, Chelsea can beat Arsenal but it won't mean shit if they drop points against crap teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hazard has been outstanding today, Ben Arfa should be given that sort of role in our side but he's surrounded by s*** players around him. Ben Arfa has less than half of Hazard's ability. That's not true whatsoever, he might not have the same drive, confidence and workrate, but he clearly doesn't have less than his footballing abilities ffs. can't agree, HBA has a lot of natural talent but Hazard has a hell of a lot more imho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Matic is a big b******. Beast. The only player who really impressed me when we played Benfica last season, oozes class IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 can't agree, HBA has a lot of natural talent but Hazard has a hell of a lot more imho Course he does. Not surprised to be hearing such guff on here, mind. More talent than Rooney and capable of being the best player in the league under Keegan if you'd believe some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have to say I don't think Silva has been a consistently good player for two years. Its not even what Neville was saying about letting the full back go up, its that he rarely creates chances anymore. He was anonymous tonight and has been most times I've seen them this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hazard is the best in the league in his position (Wide in a forward 3) by some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Matic is a big b******. Beast. The only player who really impressed me when we played Benfica last season, oozes class IMO. Yea, he's a class above. Not even Moutinho played at his level in the portuguese league. Lazar Markovic will be a Chelsea player in a couple of years as well. Unfortunately. Another serbian with the potential to be worldclass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have to say I don't think Silva has been a consistently good player for two years. Its not even what Neville was saying about letting the full back go up, its that he rarely creates chances anymore. He was anonymous tonight and has been most times I've seen them this season You can't have seen him much this season then, he's been great every time he's played this season before tonight. His problem is he's been injured a lot but he's been great this season when he's actually been on the pitch. No doubt he was poor tonight, but that hasn't been the case for the majority of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have to say I don't think Silva has been a consistently good player for two years. Its not even what Neville was saying about letting the full back go up, its that he rarely creates chances anymore. He was anonymous tonight and has been most times I've seen them this season You can't have seen him much this season then, he's been great every time he's played this season before tonight. His problem is he's been injured a lot but he's been great this season when he's actually been on the pitch. No doubt he was poor tonight, but that hasn't been the case for the majority of this season. Only the televised games really I've seen him. Didn't see the game against Tottenham though which he was probably very good in. I thought he was a bit too happy to give the responsibility of creating chances to others tonight anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think Silva's had a great season overall. Been in and out with injuries/suspension etc, but been instrumental when on - albeit with less media fanfare around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think Silva's had a great season overall. Been in and out with injuries/suspension etc, but been instrumental when on - albeit with less media fanfare around him. I think the fanfare being lower is more due to his hype dying down after having an indifferent 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think HBA would be as good or not far off Hazard in the right set up. I really do, but it's an opinion which can easily be mocked - which I begrudgingly accept. It feels like HBA has been here a depressingly long time without getting a run of games in the side at RM. And even then I do genuinely believe he is handicapped by Pardew, our ever-changing "tactics" and our lack of other creative outlets/movement. You look at his passing second half Norwich, and some of the chances he creates which poor players like Cisse and Ameobi can't do anything with, and you wonder what could be. I suspect I'll never have more than conjecture to support my opinion, but I really think he could be a full-on consistently devastating badass somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think HBA would be as good or not far off Hazard in the right set up. I really do, but it's an opinion which can easily be mocked - which I begrudgingly accept. It feels like HBA has been here a depressingly long time without getting a run of games in the side at RM. And even then I do genuinely believe he is handicapped by Pardew, our ever-changing "tactics" and our lack of other creative outlets/movement. You look at his passing second half Norwich, and some of the chances he creates which poor players like Cisse and Ameobi can't do anything with, and you wonder what could be. I suspect I'll never have more than conjecture to support my opinion, but I really think he could be a full-on consistently devastating badass somewhere else. Completely disagree. It comes down to the player at the end of the day, Ben Arfa clearly hasn't got the right attitude or mentality to ever be as good as someone like Hazard. Hazard is currently one of the best players in the world and Ben Arfa isn't even close to been good enough for a top 4 side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think HBA would be as good or not far off Hazard in the right set up. I really do, but it's an opinion which can easily be mocked - which I begrudgingly accept. It feels like HBA has been here a depressingly long time without getting a run of games in the side at RM. And even then I do genuinely believe he is handicapped by Pardew, our ever-changing "tactics" and our lack of other creative outlets/movement. You look at his passing second half Norwich, and some of the chances he creates which poor players like Cisse and Ameobi can't do anything with, and you wonder what could be. I suspect I'll never have more than conjecture to support my opinion, but I really think he could be a full-on consistently devastating badass somewhere else. If what you are saying has any truth, you would not find him in a nufc squad sheet already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Shearer is a bastion of manliness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think HBA would be as good or not far off Hazard in the right set up. I really do, but it's an opinion which can easily be mocked - which I begrudgingly accept. It feels like HBA has been here a depressingly long time without getting a run of games in the side at RM. And even then I do genuinely believe he is handicapped by Pardew, our ever-changing "tactics" and our lack of other creative outlets/movement. You look at his passing second half Norwich, and some of the chances he creates which poor players like Cisse and Ameobi can't do anything with, and you wonder what could be. I suspect I'll never have more than conjecture to support my opinion, but I really think he could be a full-on consistently devastating badass somewhere else. He'll go the way of Laurent Robert - we'll get some good goals out of him but his attitude means we'll see him fall away when he does leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think HBA would be as good or not far off Hazard in the right set up. I really do, but it's an opinion which can easily be mocked - which I begrudgingly accept. It feels like HBA has been here a depressingly long time without getting a run of games in the side at RM. And even then I do genuinely believe he is handicapped by Pardew, our ever-changing "tactics" and our lack of other creative outlets/movement. You look at his passing second half Norwich, and some of the chances he creates which poor players like Cisse and Ameobi can't do anything with, and you wonder what could be. I suspect I'll never have more than conjecture to support my opinion, but I really think he could be a full-on consistently devastating badass somewhere else. HBA is far closer to Adel Taarabt than Eden Hazard. Fantastic dribbler, yet selfish with frustratingly little end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think reality will probably see him closer to Taraabt than Hazard, but that he could have been Hazard-calibre had he made a different career move than our ship of the damned a few years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think reality will probably see him closer to Taraabt than Hazard, but that he could have been Hazard-calibre had he made a different career move than our ship of the damned a few years ago Quite possibly true! Anyway, I hope the majority of comments in here have been praising the tactical god that is Mourinho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Assume it's already been mentioned but jeez, what a miss Fernandinho was tonight. Or indeed a vaguely competent central midfielder to partner Toure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Assume it's already been mentioned but jeez, what a miss Fernandinho was tonight. Or indeed a vaguely competent central midfielder to partner Toure. an actual central midfielder would have been a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hazard's intelligence and willingness to use his vision is what sets him apart from HBA. Ben Arfa could be nearly as good (IMO) if he had a better mentality/more of a brain. Hazard is generally great at knowing when to run, pass etc. Quite an unselfish player considering how much talent he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollof rice and pea Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 azpilicueta has been quietly excellent at left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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