SEMTEX Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Has anyone ever fallen from grace as much as Torres? Every well paid Brazilian ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Has anyone ever fallen from grace as much as Torres? Every well paid Brazilian ever. This was easily my initial thought, but then again not all paid Brazilians were even good at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Obviously not to the scale of Torres, but you forget how rapidly Robert fell from grace. Absolute goal/assist machine May 2004, looked a seriously quality player... two years later... barely getting a game for relegation-threatened Pompey then pretty much total obscurity afterwards. He couldn't even get pitch time at Derby in that season they finished with record low points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Aside from Rooney, I don't agree with that. His constant rhetoric has always been that he wants players to 'express themselves' http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/12/27/1324986876825/Park-Ji-Sung-says-Manches-007.jpg Is who I am assuming Oldtype is talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Obviously not to the scale of Torres, but you forget how rapidly Robert fell from grace. Absolute goal/assist machine May 2004, looked a seriously quality player... two years later... barely getting a game for relegation-threatened Pompey then pretty much total obscurity afterwards. He couldn't even get pitch time at Derby in that season they finished with record low points. Classic case of a troubled talent? Similar to Ben Arfa, not managed in the right way and he's a liability. Shouldn't have commented, it's only made me consider how good Ben Arfa would have been under Sir Bobby... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Aside from Rooney, I don't agree with that. His constant rhetoric has always been that he wants players to 'express themselves' http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/12/27/1324986876825/Park-Ji-Sung-says-Manches-007.jpg Is who I am assuming Oldtype is talking about. Ah right, no one that important then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Obviously not to the scale of Torres, but you forget how rapidly Robert fell from grace. Absolute goal/assist machine May 2004, looked a seriously quality player... two years later... barely getting a game for relegation-threatened Pompey then pretty much total obscurity afterwards. He couldn't even get pitch time at Derby in that season they finished with record low points. Classic case of a troubled talent? Similar to Ben Arfa, not managed in the right way and he's a liability. Shouldn't have commented, it's only made me consider how good Ben Arfa would have been under Sir Bobby... Robert had just turned 30 when he left us. His career was always going to naturally decline. Damien Duff on the other hand...signed at 26/27 and was a shadow of who he was at Blackburn & Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://estaticos03.marca.com/albumes/2015/01/04/torres_presentacion/1420379548_extras_albumes_0_480.jpg He's baaaaaaack. I'm not usually one to complain about footballers haircuts, but Torres blatantly has the worst hair in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://estaticos03.marca.com/albumes/2015/01/04/torres_presentacion/1420379548_extras_albumes_0_480.jpg He's baaaaaaack. I'm not usually one to complain about footballers haircuts, but Torres blatantly has the worst hair in the game. Get those orthopedic shoes at the ready, because you're about to stand corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hard to keep up really he changes it every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 David Bentley's fall from grace was pretty early and spectacular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://estaticos03.marca.com/albumes/2015/01/04/torres_presentacion/1420379548_extras_albumes_0_480.jpg He's baaaaaaack. I'm not usually one to complain about footballers haircuts, but Torres blatantly has the worst hair in the game. Get those orthopedic shoes at the ready, because you're about to stand corrected. http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/201409/gervinho.png?itok=Rc0hz5HA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Michael Johnson Yoan Gouffran Afonso Alves Francis Jeffers Aaron Spear I'm an expert in falls-from-grace. Absolutely love it when players enter the wonderful world of international obscurity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://estaticos03.marca.com/albumes/2015/01/04/torres_presentacion/1420379548_extras_albumes_0_480.jpg He's baaaaaaack. I'm not usually one to complain about footballers haircuts, but Torres blatantly has the worst hair in the game. Get those orthopedic shoes at the ready, because you're about to stand corrected. http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/201409/gervinho.png?itok=Rc0hz5HA He was mint when he was in Earth Wind and Fire, though. http://ithoughtitwasthetrash.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/verdine_white_3.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Michael Johnson Yoan Gouffran Afonso Alves Francis Jeffers Aaron Spear I'm an expert in falls-from-grace. Absolutely love it when players enter the wonderful world of international obscurity. Great shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 James Beattie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ronaldinho was actually good at Milan, especially in his second season. Ridicilous that he didn't go to South Africa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Adriano, World class player to not wanted over night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Adriano, World class player to not wanted over night Just signed for Le Havre apparently for 6 months. I'll give it 2 months before he decides to do other stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Adriano, World class player to not wanted over night Just signed for Le Havre apparently for 6 months. I'll give it 2 months before he decides to do other stuff. Like selling motorbikes to drug lords. Never forget him on PES though. Absolute winner on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Think he had 99 shot power. Was just silliness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Giles Barnes was one of the next big things, already in the MLS aged 26. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Adriano, World class player to not wanted over night Just signed for Le Havre apparently for 6 months. I'll give it 2 months before he decides to do other stuff. Like selling motorbikes to drug lords. Never forget him on PES though. Absolute winner on there. Aye, the guy that did the stats was an Inter fan though, so he went massively overboard with the Inter players. Martins was 99 pace and 99 acceleration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I remember even on PES 2008, former Inter players Emre and Martins were ridiculously overrated in the Newcastle team. The best team on that game was Nigeria, they were fucking incredible. I used to play 4-2-4 just so I could fit Martins, Kanu, Yakubu and Uche in the side because they were all far too good to leave out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ronaldinho was actually good at Milan, especially in his second season. Ridicilous that he didn't go to South Africa. He really wasn't man. Trust me, he was a point machine but he had changed his game far too much and was slowing down play too much for Dunga's tactics. However I do agree that he, Ganso and Neymar should've gone. Those three would've brought something needed when going bad. Problem in 2010 was fact we didn't have one player off the bench that could make a difference. A bit like this year. Not one offensive player that could come off the bench and change the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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