LionOfGosforth Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid cunts where this is concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid cunts where this is concerned. See Tooj's post, explains it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pogba's a very good player but I can't help feel he gets more focus and is rated higher due to the hype surrounding him. The way he dresses, the hairstyles all go towards raising his profile and his status. This is certainly true. His highs are very high and he has a great highlight reel. Perfect for the modern, short attention span, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram era. Very, very good player obviously but by all accounts not even the best at Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid cunts where this is concerned. it is quite baffling as you'd think Ferguson more than almost any other manager (only wenger would be better than him on that front) would give a youngster a fair shot in the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid c***s where this is concerned. See Tooj's post, explains it better Still, Cleverly and an ancient Scholes were preferred to him. Seems mad now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pogba's a very good player but I can't help feel he gets more focus and is rated higher due to the hype surrounding him. The way he dresses, the hairstyles all go towards raising his profile and his status. This is certainly true. His highs are very high and he has a great highlight reel. Perfect for the modern, short attention span, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram era. It's really not and he'll prove it as long as Mourinho isn't stupid enough to play him like Deschamps did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid c***s where this is concerned. See Tooj's post, explains it better Still, Cleverly and an ancient Scholes were preferred to him. Seems mad now. Wasn't just that, Rafael was played in midfield ahead of him as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 “Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we’re aware,” Ferguson told MUTV. “It’s a bit disappointing because I don’t think he showed us any respect at all. To be honest, if they carry on that way, I’m quite happy that he’s away, from me, anyway.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pogba's a very good player but I can't help feel he gets more focus and is rated higher due to the hype surrounding him. The way he dresses, the hairstyles all go towards raising his profile and his status. This is certainly true. His highs are very high and he has a great highlight reel. Perfect for the modern, short attention span, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram era. It's really not and he'll prove it as long as Mourinho isn't stupid enough to play him like Deschamps did. See, this is where the logic breaks down a bit. Mourinho is quite stupid at times (see Schurrle, De Bruyne, Lukaku and countless others). He just loves spending monopoly money on players, first class at doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 “Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we’re aware,” Ferguson told MUTV. “It’s a bit disappointing because I don’t think he showed us any respect at all. To be honest, if they carry on that way, I’m quite happy that he’s away, from me, anyway.” Yeah wasn't it a breakdown over a period of time, presumably involving Ferguson digging up corpses to play in midfield ahead of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wouldn't surprise me if Ferguson didn't like the agent demanding that his client got guaranteed game time and wanted to show them that nobody told him what to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pogba's a very good player but I can't help feel he gets more focus and is rated higher due to the hype surrounding him. The way he dresses, the hairstyles all go towards raising his profile and his status. This is certainly true. His highs are very high and he has a great highlight reel. Perfect for the modern, short attention span, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram era. It's really not and he'll prove it as long as Mourinho isn't stupid enough to play him like Deschamps did. See, this is where the logic breaks down a bit. Mourinho is quite stupid at times (see Schurrle, De Bruyne, Lukaku and countless others). He just loves spending monopoly money on players, first class at doing that. Aye i don't trust him either, just saying that the hype is justified based on his Juventus performances but they give him freedom to play how he can be most effective. Waste of time on Man Yoo's behalf if they don't, France play him as a DM because he's a freak athlete, tall and physical But he isn't that sort of player in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was out of contract when he joined Juve. Interesting, thought he went for a small fee. Strange they didn't see a player in there worth a new contract. They did, he forced the move as he wanted first team football I think. Were they that well off in potentially world class box-to-box midfielders that could be worth a world record fee some day that they couldn't give him a few more first team opportunities? Being facetious but man, and not that they care, but they don't half looks like stupid c***s where this is concerned. See Tooj's post, explains it better Still, Cleverly and an ancient Scholes were preferred to him. Seems mad now. Wasn't just that, Rafael was played in midfield ahead of him as well Wow, just gets better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Fergie http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/276115.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LucaAltieri Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. I can go along with that. His size and technique combined give him fantastic potential. He's got great confidence and reads the game well. There's just something about his attitude that doesn't sit right. Doesn't perform at the level he's capable of anywhere near often enough. Right now, I'd much rather have Dybala. Maybe Pogba can be developed into a fantastic player, but he's not there yet for me. I made the comparison with Balotelli and I can absolutely see his career going the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. I can go along with that. His size and technique combined give him fantastic potential. He's got great confidence and reads the game well. There's just something about his attitude that doesn't sit right. Doesn't perform at the level he's capable of anywhere near often enough. Right now, I'd much rather have Dybala. Maybe Pogba can be developed into a fantastic player, but he's not there yet for me. I made the comparison with Balotelli and I can absolutely see his career going the same way. i'm not going to say i've watched lots of pogba but when i've seen him he's never dominated or controlled a game as you'll expect from someone who might soon be the most expensive player on the planet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. I can go along with that. His size and technique combined give him fantastic potential. He's got great confidence and reads the game well. There's just something about his attitude that doesn't sit right. Doesn't perform at the level he's capable of anywhere near often enough. Right now, I'd much rather have Dybala. Maybe Pogba can be developed into a fantastic player, but he's not there yet for me. I made the comparison with Balotelli and I can absolutely see his career going the same way. i'm not going to say i've watched lots of pogba but when i've seen him he's never dominated or controlled a game as you'll expect from someone who might soon be the most expensive player on the planet I make no claims of being an expert on Pogba, either. I fully accept that the handful of Juve games I saw last season could have been uncharacteristic. But I can only form an opinion based on what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 To be fair to Fergie, of the hundreds and hundreds of players that he released during his time as Man Utd manager it was inevitable that at least one would turn out to be a piss poor decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. I can go along with that. His size and technique combined give him fantastic potential. He's got great confidence and reads the game well. There's just something about his attitude that doesn't sit right. Doesn't perform at the level he's capable of anywhere near often enough. Right now, I'd much rather have Dybala. Maybe Pogba can be developed into a fantastic player, but he's not there yet for me. I made the comparison with Balotelli and I can absolutely see his career going the same way. If you said that before last season i'd agree with you, wasn't the case this season though. I was critical of him myself, but his decision making, passing and practically everything came on leaps and bounds. Not sure the comparison with Dybala though, i agree he's class but he's a second striker so it's a bit of a weird comparison. The reason he's hyped so much apart from his performances in the CL and Serie A is because his skillset is absolutely unique, there is absolutely nothing like him in the world right now. Also Balotelli comparison makes no sense to me, even when i was critical of him before this season his consistency and performances was miles above anything that fraud ever produced. The only comparisons those two have is they both have shit haircuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone saying he isn't that good clearly hasn't seen him for Juventus, he's one of the best midifielders in the world. Don't judge him on his performances for France as he wasn't given any freedom and basically was protecting the back 4, it would be like playing Yaya Toure as a DM and saying he isn't that good. As long as Mourinho isn't that stupid and plays him as a B2B midfielder with freedom he'll rip the league apart. I've only seen him for Juve. He's half the player Dybala is. Not sure about the comparison there. For me Pogba is the best CM in the world and has absolutely everything. Not many of those kind of players around with the potential he has. I can go along with that. His size and technique combined give him fantastic potential. He's got great confidence and reads the game well. There's just something about his attitude that doesn't sit right. Doesn't perform at the level he's capable of anywhere near often enough. Right now, I'd much rather have Dybala. Maybe Pogba can be developed into a fantastic player, but he's not there yet for me. I made the comparison with Balotelli and I can absolutely see his career going the same way. If you said that before last season i'd agree with you, wasn't the case this season though. I was critical of him myself, but his decision making, passing and practically everything came on leaps and bounds. Not sure the comparison with Dybala though, i agree he's class but he's a second striker so it's a bit of a weird comparison. The reason he's hyped so much apart from his performances in the CL and Serie A is because his skillset is absolutely unique, there is absolutely nothing like him in the world right now. Also Balotelli comparison makes no sense to me, even when i was critical of him before this season his consistency and performances was miles above anything that fraud ever produced. The only comparisons those two have is they both have shit haircuts. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Beppe Marotta: "No contact with Manchester United for Paul Pogba" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 On pogbas part as well I don't see why he would be keen to go back there after they thought he wasn't good enough not that long ago. I would tell them where to go. Yeah people will say money but he could get a huge wage elsewhere too Pressure from his agent as well Agent is getting £18.4m for the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Telegraph reporting Arsenal have agreed £67m fee for Higuain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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