Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I think people are very naive to think money isn't the only factor, it's a factor but it's not only factor and it never is. Also why is it strange for a player to want to be the main guy? Football and in sport in general is littered with examples of this. It's not anything new. You're probably right. He fits the narcissistic prick profile who always needs to be number 1. 3-4 years not being the one and never having problem not being the one proves the contrary. He's at his peak and at some point he needs to make a move if he really has the ambition to be the best in the world otherwise Messi is going to be ahead of him until he is pst his peak as Messi isn't human and will probably play on for another 5 years at the highest level. No matter what he does and where he plays, he'll never surpass Messi (or Ronaldo) in the best player stakes. Yes there might come a time when both Messi and Ronaldo are on the wane or retired, and he might be the top player in the world for a year or two, but that's about it. I could totally understand him moving for a new challenge, but even if he stays and plays second fiddle, it's not as if he won't be getting picked for Brazil man. Even if he's on the bench at Barca, he'll still be leading Brazil out at the world cup there's no doubt about that. It's very difficult to gauge a player's ambition when they've already won what he's won, and have had the success he's had. Only Neymar himself knows what he really wants, and we can only speculate based on what we see from the outside. Oh absolutely, agree, what I'm saying is that in Brazil the general opinion is that the best way for him to prepare for the WC and his role at it is by being the main guy week in week out. He's still a bit inconsistent with Barcelona and for me his best football has come when Messi has been out injured. He's at his best when he can attack the fullback for 90minutes something he doesn't really do at Barcelona. He's a completely different player for the national team and he's much more entertaining for the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 fwiw i love neymar and hope that if (when) he moves he goes on to be amazing football is all about money these days, couldn't give a shit about any of that really each 'big money' story is more ridiculous than the last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's already won everything so I guess he can do what he wants now. I just think PSG is a crap destination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's already won everything so I guess he can do what he wants now. I just think PSG is a crap destination. I just remember what David Luiz said that he learnt nothing by being in the French league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 he leads them to the CL and it works imo, anything less he'll be remembered as a player that threw it all away for money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The whole affair, at the end of the day, is about money. If PSG follows through with the stupid amounts of money they reportedly want to throw at him, his father + the fee, nothing can keep him at Barça (we just won't match what PSG is offering him). Which is totally fine, I'm on record here saying that I don't fault footballers for attempting to make the most of very short professional careers, and I'm not going to change my tune because it happens to us. Don't be daft mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Neymar v Paul Dummett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Trying to say that Ligue 1 is on par with La Liga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Nah, he could just stay at Barcelona and prove himself better than Messi and Suarez. He's probably realized he's not though, so he wants the money instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. It's absolute bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I'm not sold on the its all down to the money thing like. Its probably the deciding factor of course, otherwise he'd remain at Barca. But he will want to go somewhere where he can win things and play with top players and PSG can offer him that along with a shit load of money so its win win win almost. And Paris? Its probably my favourite City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's a horrid little diving creep moving for purely financial reasons. Pull the other one Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's a horrid little diving creep moving for purely financial reasons. Pull the other one Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. It absolutely is, but in other sports players are encouraged to go to other teams and not building a super team. I find it hard that we as Newcastle supporters want to see all the best players in one single team. As for him not being the best just because he moves there, it's very true, but I see him having a greater chance of becoming one there which at the end is probably the dream of most players apart from winning everything. I mean that is my opinion anyways, regardless of player in this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Flip is right, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 As a Newcastle fan I'll be proud as punch that some cunt is playing for PSG instead of Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Nah, he could just stay at Barcelona and prove himself better than Messi and Suarez. He's probably realized he's not though, so he wants the money instead. Shut up Kaiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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