hithere Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The whole affair, at the end of the day, is about money. If PSG follows through with the stupid amounts of money they reportedly want to throw at him, his father + the fee, nothing can keep him at Barça (we just won't match what PSG is offering him). Which is totally fine, I'm on record here saying that I don't fault footballers for attempting to make the most of very short professional careers, and I'm not going to change my tune because it happens to us. Don't be daft mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Neymar v Paul Dummett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. Trying to say that Ligue 1 is on par with La Liga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Nah, he could just stay at Barcelona and prove himself better than Messi and Suarez. He's probably realized he's not though, so he wants the money instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. It's absolute bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I'm not sold on the its all down to the money thing like. Its probably the deciding factor of course, otherwise he'd remain at Barca. But he will want to go somewhere where he can win things and play with top players and PSG can offer him that along with a shit load of money so its win win win almost. And Paris? Its probably my favourite City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's a horrid little diving creep moving for purely financial reasons. Pull the other one Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sima Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's a horrid little diving creep moving for purely financial reasons. Pull the other one Flip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. It absolutely is, but in other sports players are encouraged to go to other teams and not building a super team. I find it hard that we as Newcastle supporters want to see all the best players in one single team. As for him not being the best just because he moves there, it's very true, but I see him having a greater chance of becoming one there which at the end is probably the dream of most players apart from winning everything. I mean that is my opinion anyways, regardless of player in this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Flip is right, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 As a Newcastle fan I'll be proud as punch that some cunt is playing for PSG instead of Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yeah, the whole "it's better for Brazil" argument falls a bit flat given he'll spend one year running at Ligue 1 fullbacks. Whatever. Exactly this Compared to what? Running against La Liga defenders? Give me a break. Only league he could've gone to where that argument doesn't fall flat is the PL and even then there are some absolutely horrible players in the PL as well. But then again in the end it's all about the CL. If it wasn't about the money but about leading the line at a team, he'd have gone somewhere else than PSG. There's no counterargument for that. There is a very simple one. They're the only ones willing to pay his release clause try again Kaiz. Nah, he could just stay at Barcelona and prove himself better than Messi and Suarez. He's probably realized he's not though, so he wants the money instead. Shut up Kaiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Weird fetish for Barcelona + loathing Neymar = some of these responses tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I hate Barcelona, Neymar and PSG, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I dont have a massive interest in Barca or Neymar tbh, but not sure how Newcastle fans can fail to agree with the idea of a player wanting leadership when we had Shearer wanting Ferdinand to vacate the number 9 shirt. Equally recently it being mentioned he wasn't happy about Sutton joining him at Blackburn. The dynamic of a new side would be different for Neymar, he joined Barcelona as a young lad and will have looked up to others. The psychology of that will have an affect, whether to pass in a key moment, whether he looks out for someone with a bigger status to do something or tries to do it himself. Maybe he doesn't know yet what he's capable of. Maybe if he's better for Brazil as Flip suggests, its because he has to be. Could be he wants to play for a club where he has to be too, where he is the guy people look to & demand the answer from. Bale is a good example for me. He was a far better player at Spurs when it was OK for him to have a crack & do it himself, because he was their best chance & he mostly came through. When he's got an 80m forward infront of him expecting the ball, the expectation to find that guy will limit his ability to have a go himself. His status is being lowered, so his options are also. But yeah money will come into it also you'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tbh, the 'main man' argument doesn't really make me view it in any better a light tbh, why would it? It's a team sport and he's playing as part of the best front three in the world, if he goes to PSG he's still not going to be the best player in the world. Find that as an argument completely flawed tbh. It absolutely is, but in other sports players are encouraged to go to other teams and not building a super team. I find it hard that we as Newcastle supporters want to see all the best players in one single team. As for him not being the best just because he moves there, it's very true, but I see him having a greater chance of becoming one there which at the end is probably the dream of most players apart from winning everything. I mean that is my opinion anyways, regardless of player in this situation. It really makes no difference to me considering Barca aren't English, nor are Newcastle in the same universe. The bottom line is that I just want to see the best football possible. Money aside I'm still a bit dubious of any player who'd want to be the main man over playing better football and competing for better trophies unless there's some sort of emotional connection with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Neymar has won everything he can at Barca and it will always be Messi's team. Trying to lead PSG to a CL trophy is a fresh challenge and he also gets to live in another amazing place. Then there's also Flip's Brazil angle to it on a WC year which has to be his main target on his career. Money is always a factor but I think it's naive to think it's the sole reason for the possible transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Aimed at KI: Doesn't make sens to me, unless you think PSG have a bad team. He's won it all already for Barca and if he signs for PSG I'd Say PSG might actually be stronger at the moment then Barcelona. My opinion of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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