jdckelly Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do we have to have debt within the structure? I find it hilarious the board state that Ashleys loan is interest free and because of this the free advertising doesn't matter there's probably some accountancy nonsense I'm not aware of but the obvious one is keep the asking price around the £200m mark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 DP also explained that thoughts are turning to next season and that Wonga remains open to fans' ideas for 'set-piece' occasions. Seriously? Who are we, Bolton? Annnnnnnnd, here comes your corner, sponsored by Wonga.com. Annnnnnnnnnd it's hit the first man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The reason we need debt within the structure is so Ashley can have his free advertising all around SJP until he fucks off and we don't get paid a penny out of lost income for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 DP also explained that thoughts are turning to next season and that Wonga remains open to fans' ideas for 'set-piece' occasions. Seriously? Who are we, Bolton? Annnnnnnnd, here comes your corner, sponsored by Wonga.com. Annnnnnnnnnd it's hit the first man. Will it not mean those shit flags and clappers they embarrassed us with v the mackems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do we have to have debt within the structure? I find it hilarious the board state that Ashleys loan is interest free and because of this the free advertising doesn't matter there's probably some accountancy nonsense I'm not aware of but the obvious one is keep the asking price around the £200m mark? That was the figure that he wanted when the man city owners were interested in us but he pissed them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The recent True Faith edition, where they got a load of investigative accountants in, suggested that Sports Direct occupied roughly £25m worth of advertising space. Per annum. Btw. Interest-free my fucking arsehole you fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I would love to say "you're not fooling anyone", but, ya know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The recent True Faith edition, where they got a load of investigative accountants in, suggested that Sports Direct occupied roughly £25m worth of advertising space. Per annum. Btw. Interest-free my f***ing arsehole you fat c***. Exactly look at the amount of space they receive from ourselves. It's the sports direct arena in everything but name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The recent True Faith edition, where they got a load of investigative accountants in, suggested that Sports Direct occupied roughly £25m worth of advertising space. Per annum. Btw. Interest-free my fucking arsehole you fat cunt. That's amazingly high, have we ever raised that much before? Guess we've never written on the front of the stand or on the roof before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No way is it worth 25M. Probably put it between 5-10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 VV: "This club is a bit special and if we won something, the impact would be very positive." VV also felt that winning a trophy could drive the Club's commerciality which has been clarified as an important growth area. CF: "A lot of fans come here looking for a cup run. There is a regular discussion amongst fans at the moment - 'would you prefer to win a cup and be relegated'?" The Club highlighted that the strength of the team selected by the manager to play Cardiff City in the FA Cup was capable of winning that game. However, as in any match, results are also influenced by performances of players on the day. The Club also referenced the result after extra-time against Manchester City in the League Cup and the chances to score which were unfortunately not taken on the night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 VV: "This club is a bit special and if we won something, the impact would be very positive." VV also felt that winning a trophy could drive the Club's commerciality which has been clarified as an important growth area. CF: "A lot of fans come here looking for a cup run. There is a regular discussion amongst fans at the moment - 'would you prefer to win a cup and be relegated'?" The Club highlighted that the strength of the team selected by the manager to play Cardiff City in the FA Cup was capable of winning that game. However, as in any match, results are also influenced by performances of players on the day. The Club also referenced the result after extra-time against Manchester City in the League Cup and the chances to score which were unfortunately not taken on the night. Even the board stick the boot in on the players. Pardew ain't going anywhere absolved of any blame there like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 VV: "This club is a bit special and if we won something, the impact would be very positive." VV also felt that winning a trophy could drive the Club's commerciality which has been clarified as an important growth area. CF: "A lot of fans come here looking for a cup run. There is a regular discussion amongst fans at the moment - 'would you prefer to win a cup and be relegated'?" The Club highlighted that the strength of the team selected by the manager to play Cardiff City in the FA Cup was capable of winning that game. However, as in any match, results are also influenced by performances of players on the day. The Club also referenced the result after extra-time against Manchester City in the League Cup and the chances to score which were unfortunately not taken on the night. Cabaye and Remy missing against sunderland, Spurs, absolutely anyone in the league - the club's line is "we've got injuries, can't be expected not to get absolutely murdered with those two out" Cabaye and Remy left out (sorry, "injured") against Cardiff and Man City - the club's line changes to "that team was easily good enough to win" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I can't see the £25m being true. It costs around £8k for 30 seconds advertising on sky, if you assume 4 home games are broadcast and it would cost the same on BBC for motd (3mins per game) then it's around £13 million worth of free exposure by plastering the advertising boards each year. I'd discount any value from people at the game based on current sentiment! Now that's benefit to SD, not money taken away from NUFC. How much is the Wonga deal worth? The stadium advertising income must be less than that - if MAs reason is to maximise profits for SD (or his total 'group's profitability) then he would use the advertising stream with maximum impact for least cost for SD and allow a third party to pay to use other avenues. Therefore if we could get more for stadium advertising than for shirt advertising we would have SD on the front of the shirts (giving double the TV exposure) and not in the ground. I'd say its probably net nil impact for the stadium advertising to MA - lose around £10m income but gain the same in TV exposure. Now ironically the higher up the league we are and/or the better footballl we play, the more games are likely to be shown thereby increasing the value of the advertising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'll dig out the excerpt after me tea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do we have to have debt within the structure? I find it hilarious the board state that Ashleys loan is interest free and because of this the free advertising doesn't matter It matters if the reason the loans are interest free is because it's some tax dodgeing way of benefiting from the advertising space. If some unrelated company offered Ashley considerably more than any potential interest he might charge then he'd take it. No? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No way is it worth 25M. Probably put it between 5-10m. At best I'd have thought. The same or less than the interest rate that let's say Lerner might charge. Ashley clearly benefits something from the arrangement, but I don't see it as an awful thing bar the shitness of the sponsor. That said the days of decent sponsors seem to be diminishing, its all investment companies and Asian betting shit these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do we have to have debt within the structure? I find it hilarious the board state that Ashleys loan is interest free and because of this the free advertising doesn't matter It matters if the reason the loans are interest free is because it's some tax dodgeing way of benefiting from the advertising space. If some unrelated company offered Ashley considerably more than any potential interest he might charge then he'd take it. No? I'd be surprised if we haven't had any viable offers for that space tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do we have to have debt within the structure? I find it hilarious the board state that Ashleys loan is interest free and because of this the free advertising doesn't matter It matters if the reason the loans are interest free is because it's some tax dodgeing way of benefiting from the advertising space. If some unrelated company offered Ashley considerably more than any potential interest he might charge then he'd take it. No? I'd be surprised if we haven't had any viable offers for that space tbh I wouldn't, none of the truly decent money tends to go below the regular champions league clubs anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah, might as well not have it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 VV commented that supporters are "desperate to see success", while SH added that the Club "carries the huge weight of dreams that fans have." The board underlined that everyone in the Club aspires to do the best they possibly can to help it flourish. --- The sound like trying to placate the whimsical wishes of a child. Fucking patronizing in both tone and content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Mark Jankowski (MJ): "There appeared to be a lack of strategy in respect of replacing him. Fans can understand not spending unnecessarily, but what about loan deals?" The board suggested that if it was to be self-critical, it should have had a young player who could naturally step into the squad as it aims to in all positions. In respect of the transfer, the board explained that the Club did not want to sell the player. However, the player was adamant he wanted to leave. The Club made a substantial bid for a replacement but an agreement could not be reached with the prospective selling club. The Club also pursued other options but particular clubs were unwilling to sell. The board explained that the January window is disruptive for clubs and that there are far more options available to it in the summer window. ---- Okay, haha, wow. So straight up, baldfaced lies, again. Fuck off, you fucking cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 If a player wants to leave he has to be allowed to go thats the rules............. just ask Suarez and liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Mark Jankowski (MJ): "There appeared to be a lack of strategy in respect of replacing him. Fans can understand not spending unnecessarily, but what about loan deals?" The board suggested that if it was to be self-critical, it should have had a young player who could naturally step into the squad as it aims to in all positions. In respect of the transfer, the board explained that the Club did not want to sell the player. However, the player was adamant he wanted to leave. The Club made a substantial bid for a replacement but an agreement could not be reached with the prospective selling club. The Club also pursued other options but particular clubs were unwilling to sell. The board explained that the January window is disruptive for clubs and that there are far more options available to it in the summer window. ---- Okay, haha, wow. So straight up, baldfaced lies, again. Fuck off, you fucking cunts. Wonder why we spent so much in January 2013 then? Total wankers man, just making it up as they go along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 More options available in the summer window? Well that explains why we managed to sign only 1 player on loan in nearly 4 months last summer. The rhetoric is just disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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