Optimistic Nut Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. My point is though, we showed as much/little as what Fulham did. We were playing for effectively nowt, they were supposedly fighting for their lives, yet we were the ones who had the best chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The linesman gave offside didn't he, which it wasn't? My stream was a bit ropey tbf, certainly wasn't over the line. The goal came from the foul on De Jong though. We were fucking shite man. If you tried to watch the full 90 mins you would know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The linesman gave offside didn't he, which it wasn't? My stream was a bit ropey tbf, certainly wasn't over the line. The goal came from the foul on De Jong though. We were f***ing s**** man. If you tried to watch the full 90 mins you would know that. I'm not saying we weren't man. But "we deserved to lose" suggests they were better than us which they weren't. Their goal shouldn't have been, we had over 60% of the ball which is pretty rare for us, and like I said, had the two best chances with Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Cisse's chance aside in the 2nd we didn't look like scoring, they created that through error. From HT 'til they scored it, at times, only seemed like a matter of time that it was going to happen and when it did it was no surprise to anyone. They weren't and aren't good and didn't need to be to win, says more than anything. We're embarrassingly reliant on a player we don't even own. So smalltime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Just seen your username (nut i mean) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. My point is though, we showed as much/little as what Fulham did. We were playing for effectively nowt, they were supposedly fighting for their lives, yet we were the ones who had the best chances. I understand that point but they're a shite side, we didn't deserve anything given how we played so we can't complain if we lost, regardless of Fulham's performance. A fair result would have been a draw but it's one of those games where neither side could feel hard done by if they lost. We've won plenty in similar circumstances the last few years. If I was Fulham I'd be delighted with the points due to the position they're in, if we'd won like that I'd say it wasn't really good enough but whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I was at work and couldn't get a stream so can't really comment too much. Hate going off match of the day. Was reading through the thread today and it just seemed an awful match in which both teams didn't really deserve a point each it was that bad. Just felt Webb had a howler with that tackle on LDJ but Krul has cost us the point through awful keeping. Thought Cisse was unlucky with his first effort, very good save from the keeper but he's got to be more convincing with that second chance. You could see the major lack of confidence, he really didn't know what to do when he got gifted the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. My point is though, we showed as much/little as what Fulham did. We were playing for effectively nowt, they were supposedly fighting for their lives, yet we were the ones who had the best chances. I understand that point but they're a s**** side, we didn't deserve anything given how we played so we can't complain if we lost, regardless of Fulham's performance. A fair result would have been a draw but it's one of those games where neither side could feel hard done by if they lost. We've won plenty in similar circumstances the last few years. If I was Fulham I'd be delighted with the points due to the position they're in, if we'd won like that I'd say it wasn't really good enough but whatever. That's my point. There's a difference between 'deserved to lose' and 'didn't deserve to win'. That game today should have really been 0-0. If the ref makes the right call then it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 We didn't lose the game because of the referee, we lost it because we were dragged down to their level and therefore contested a highly tedious match where it was going to end up 0-0 or 1-0 either way, depending on whether anyone produced a moment of quality or made a major rick (as Krul did). Pissed me off how we brought Shola on straight after their goal and fucking hoofed it for 20 minutes solid like, but I was hardly surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. My point is though, we showed as much/little as what Fulham did. We were playing for effectively nowt, they were supposedly fighting for their lives, yet we were the ones who had the best chances. I understand that point but they're a s**** side, we didn't deserve anything given how we played so we can't complain if we lost, regardless of Fulham's performance. A fair result would have been a draw but it's one of those games where neither side could feel hard done by if they lost. We've won plenty in similar circumstances the last few years. If I was Fulham I'd be delighted with the points due to the position they're in, if we'd won like that I'd say it wasn't really good enough but whatever. That's my point. There's a difference between 'deserved to lose' and 'didn't deserve to win'. That game today should have really been 0-0. If the ref makes the right call then it is. If you don't deserve to win by showing any meaningful attacking intent then you can't complain when you lose. That's my point and I'll say it every single time. There's enough people on here that say "well, we won so stop moaning" when we get a scrappy win in similar circumstances. In Fulham's position it's a good win though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wullie Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The linesman gave offside didn't he, which it wasn't? My stream was a bit ropey tbf, certainly wasn't over the line. The goal came from the foul on De Jong though. Which goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. So if you don't threaten the opposition enough the referee shouldn't give you free kicks or penalties? Which Uefa ruling does this come under? If you play like shit for 90 minutes and the opposition defender handles the ball in his own penalty area that's a penalty. How deserving the opposition are of that penalty based on their past performance doesn't come in to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The linesman gave offside didn't he, which it wasn't? My stream was a bit ropey tbf, certainly wasn't over the line. It was offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Luck, decisions, whatever. We were playing the bottom of the table team (they're still bottom despite winning) and yet we created one chance through our own play and gumption in 90 minutes. They have the worst defence in the league naturally, and this was the best we could muster. Absolutely fucking gash man. We shouldn't need to be relying on decisions, luck, magic, science, or the rub of the green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I feel sorry for us, we're only ever unlucky, never lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 We were shit and deserved fuck all from the game. We put out a side playing a flat 4-4-2 with no creativity or attacking intent. We didn't go out to win the game, we went out to not lose it and we deserved to get beat just for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 In the last 10 games including today Fulham have won 1, drawn 2, lost 7. For the 9 games before we played them, they had scored 8 goals and let in 23, an average score-line of almost 1-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. So if you don't threaten the opposition enough the referee shouldn't give you free kicks or penalties? Which Uefa ruling does this come under? If you play like shit for 90 minutes and the opposition defender handles the ball in his own penalty area that's a penalty. How deserving the opposition are of that penalty based on their past performance doesn't come in to it. My point's so ridiculously simple, if you do fuck-all to warrant winning a game then you can't complain when you lose it. I don't care about anything else, if you play that game where you and the opposition attempt to out-bore each other then don't start bitching when you come unstuck, particularly on a day like today where we had the better players on the pitch. Refereeing decisions and stuff like that don't come into it, if you're not trying to be out of sight versus the worst side in the league by half time then you deserve what's coming to you. And we weren't trying to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Luck, decisions, whatever. We were playing the bottom of the table team (they're still bottom despite winning) and yet we created one chance through our own play and gumption in 90 minutes. They have the worst defence in the league naturally, and this was the best we could muster. Absolutely fucking gash man. We shouldn't need to be relying on decisions, luck, magic, science, or the rub of the green. Similar to what I'm saying. I was there and I was bored out of my head. Find it hilarious when people say we were unlucky not to get anything when we weren't even actively trying to win the game. Just because the opposition were shite doesn't mean we deserved anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were fucking awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. Those couple of debatable decisions would have changed the result though, since when did teams have to deserve to win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Luck, decisions, whatever. We were playing the bottom of the table team (they're still bottom despite winning) and yet we created one chance through our own play and gumption in 90 minutes. They have the worst defence in the league naturally, and this was the best we could muster. Absolutely fucking gash man. We shouldn't need to be relying on decisions, luck, magic, science, or the rub of the green. Definitely, we should play to a higher standard, let the likes of Chelsea get decisions that win them games whether they deserve it or not, we should stick to a strong morale code. If we don't deserve the points then we don't want them, after all successful sides only ever win because they deserve it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were fucking awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. Those couple of debatable decisions would have changed the result though, since when did teams have to deserve towij They scored with 20 minutes left, so 1) they might have pushed on and scored anyway if that hadn't happened, and 2) we had 20-odd minutes to do something. Again, if you pro-actively turn a football match into a non-event despite thousands of people paying a small fortune to watch it, then hard luck doesn't wash. At all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Luck, decisions, whatever. We were playing the bottom of the table team (they're still bottom despite winning) and yet we created one chance through our own play and gumption in 90 minutes. They have the worst defence in the league naturally, and this was the best we could muster. Absolutely fucking gash man. We shouldn't need to be relying on decisions, luck, magic, science, or the rub of the green. Definitely, we should play to a higher standard, let the likes of Chelsea get decisions that win them games whether they deserve it or not, we should stick to a strong morale code. If we don't deserve the points then we don't want them, after all successful sides only ever win because they deserve it! Missing points seems to be a specialism of yours, good stuff m8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Had some awful luck there judging by match of the day! That foul before their goal, disgrace. We were f***ing awful for 90 minutes today, a couple of debatable decisions doesn't change that. We absolutely deserved to lose. This is one for the "pet hates" thread for me. Does not hide the fact it should not have been a goal to them and other than their disallowed goal, we had the best two chances (Cisse both). Granted in injury-time Krul wouldn't have been in their area at 0-0. We didn't deserve to win, but neither did they particularly. By the same token, "had some awful luck there" is an absolute load of bollocks. You show almost nothing in a game like we did today and you can't complain if you get beat, I've always said that. So if you don't threaten the opposition enough the referee shouldn't give you free kicks or penalties? Which Uefa ruling does this come under? If you play like shit for 90 minutes and the opposition defender handles the ball in his own penalty area that's a penalty. How deserving the opposition are of that penalty based on their past performance doesn't come in to it. My point's so ridiculously simple, if you do fuck-all to warrant winning a game then you can't complain when you lose it. I don't care about anything else, if you play that game where you and the opposition attempt to out-bore each other then don't start bitching when you come unstuck, particularly on a day like today where we had the better players on the pitch. Refereeing decisions and stuff like that don't come into it, if you're not trying to be out of sight versus the worst side in the league by half time then you deserve what's coming to you. And we weren't trying to do that. My points even more simple, if the opposition handle the ball in their own area its a penalty. The performance of either team doesn't come in to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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