Wullie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran should have been bombed out after his last disgraceful performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Pleased that Ben Arfa is starting. Just hope he takes his chance and makes sure Pardew can't drop him for Man United next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran should have been bombed out after his last disgraceful performance. He's a goal threat at times, so he should be up front with Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Ben Arfa and Haidara Hope to f*** we don't need to bring on (m)any subs. Whey aye Shola on 65 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Find it really strange how Wullie has constantly defended Cisse for the last 18 months but Gouffran has a shocker in one game so shouldn't be in the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Find it really strange how Wullie has constantly defended Cisse for the last 18 months but Gouffran has a shocker in one game so shouldn't be in the side To be fair to Wullie, Gouffran has had more than one shocker. Personally, I'd rather see Gouffran through the middle with Cisse on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Which would make sense if Cisse wasn't our best bet for goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Which would make sense if Cisse wasn't our best bet for goals. I'm not sure that he our best bet for goals any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'm happy to see Cisse again to be honest, he seems to have improved and yet been completely starved of service, hopefully ben arfa will give him the chances now he seems ot be keeping onside more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran's offered less than nothing for months. He's in the team because he runs round a bit and on the evidence of Tuesday, he's now given up on that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Ben Arfa AND Haidara starting? Madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran is not terrible but he is a terrible wide player. Only a moron wants wide players who don't create anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran is not terrible but he is a terrible wide player. Only a moron wants wide players who don't create anything. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Find it really strange how Wullie has constantly defended Cisse for the last 18 months but Gouffran has a shocker in one game so shouldn't be in the side To be fair to Wullie, Gouffran has had more than one shocker. Personally, I'd rather see Gouffran through the middle with Cisse on the bench. I just don't understand how angry he has been since the last game when Cisse has had many, many more shockers since that initial run but he will defend him to the death. As you say Gouffran has been played out of (his best) position. It is amazing how he has gone from player of the season a few months ago to a fraud and absolute shit now. Gouffran is a good player who usually works very hard, but he will naturally get tired the amount of games he plays and the job he is wrongly given to do. He will have shockers the same as any forward who is asked to babysit a full back for most of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I just don't understand how angry he has been since the last game when Cisse has had many, many more shockers since that initial run but he will defend him to the death. As you say Gouffran has been played out of (his best) position. It is amazing how he has gone from player of the season a few months ago to a fraud and absolute s*** now. Gouffran is a good player who usually works very hard, but he will naturally get tired the amount of games he plays and the job he is wrongly given to do. He will have shockers the same as any forward who is asked to babysit a full back for most of the game. I'm on the fence with this one as I agree with bits of what both of you are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I don't mind Gouffran as a wide player in a 3, think there's enough creativity/end product in a front 3 of him, Ben Arfa and Cisse. It's him playing wide in a 4-4-2 that's done my head in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Lads, quite straight forward, Ben Arfa instead of De Jong, Haidara instead of Dummet. What everyone was asking for. Only change, hopefully, is that Percy reverts to a 433 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran should have been bombed out after his last disgraceful performance. He's a goal threat at times, so he should be up front with Cisse. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 There's wide and there's pardew wide wide. Ben Arfa and Gouffran are ineffective starting from the half way line at the extremes, but both (gouffran less so admitably) should be fine in a front 3 with license to be fluid. The problem comes when we're asking Gouff and Ben Arfa to receive the ball deep and then somehow get the ball all the way to the goal by themselves, when they should be receiving the ball further up the pitch (from the kind of passing we lack now Cabaye is gone) and then getting into the box with the help of other players who can pass the ball too. Personally Gouff was awful last few but upfront maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gouffran doesn't convince me either that he's a natural striker, but he at least deserves a run up front, all the better if it's alongside Cisse with Ben Arfa hovering around as well. We might actually see some goal threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Why do all commentators always comment on us being an "attacking side" we haven't been since Pardwho took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Find it really strange how Wullie has constantly defended Cisse for the last 18 months but Gouffran has a shocker in one game so shouldn't be in the side Amazed that you're having a dig at somebody who has stuck up for Cisse like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 It'd be nice to see a front three of Remy-Gouffran-Ben Arfa at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 A 5 page pre-match thread? Glad to see I'm not the only one finding it hard to care at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Why do all commentators always comment on us being an "attacking side" we haven't been since Pardwho took over. They look at our goals against record and conclude that we're definitely not a defensive side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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