triggs Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anita's always better than him. They're both generally shit. Fair play to Anita yesterday though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Aye, both shit 9 times outta 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 They both played well yesterday. Anita in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anita can actually press quite effectively since he's pretty quick across the ground to close down space. That's why he has done quite well as a full back when he's been asked to play there. Colback needs to be right on top of a player beforehand to make an effective tackle otherwise his opponent will just use the space to run round him. He's a nice passer but since he's rarely involved it's not much of an asset. He's a nothing player and his main role at the moment seems to be helping out at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anita is so much better than Colback, it's not even a debate. Anita is average with the odd great game, Colback dreams of being even close to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anita is so much better than Colback, it's not even a debate. Anita is average with the odd great game, Colback dreams of being even close to that. if anita was average then our midfield wouldn't be such a disaster zone, he's shit, colbacks shit arguing over who's slightly less shit is rather pointless they're as bad as each other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anita is so much better than Colback, it's not even a debate. Anita is average with the odd great game, Colback dreams of being even close to that. if anita was average then our midfield wouldn't be such a disaster zone, he's shit, colbacks shit arguing over who's slightly less shit is rather pointless they're as bad as each other Anita does have occasional games where he looks very good but all in all he's a poor player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Colback has a decent tackle in him now and then - but he makes a fucking idiotic lunge that's unnecessary and gets a booking every other match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 They both played well yesterday. Anita in particular. I think this. I also think people would do well to bear in mind the roles Vurn & Jack are suited to/picked to play, rather than hold in mind some kind of Gerrard /Robson/Keane hybrid fantasy-uber-central midfielder to compare them unfavourably against. Think Batty-Fernando-Wilkins-Deschamps: I appreciate these are high profile examples of largely forgettable but often (formation dependent) essential roles. IMO, humble as it is, if you’ve played/understand football, at any reasonable level, and/or are capable of reflection you will be aware of the potential impact--and the absence--of this kind of role. We might not salivate over it, but if nobody is hassling and harrying I think you soon notice the detrimental effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Anita is so much better than Colback, it's not even a debate. Anita is average with the odd great game, Colback dreams of being even close to that. if anita was average then our midfield wouldn't be such a disaster zone, he's shit, colbacks shit arguing over who's slightly less shit is rather pointless they're as bad as each other Anita does have occasional games where he looks very good but all in all he's a poor player I think Colback can maintain his level of consistent averageness/nothingness when all around him is going to shit, largely because he does fuck all but run about anyway. Anita on the other hand suffers badly when everyone else is playing badly, he can't raise his game against the tide very often with the odd exception, whereas when the team functions he performs better and looks a much better player than Colback. Which he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Colback has a decent tackle in him now and then - but he makes a fucking idiotic lunge that's unnecessary and gets a booking every other match. And for the other half of games he plays he'll just be grabbing and tugging on people's arms. Sorts his yellow for every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Colback is consistent because he always tries. Anita has one of these games where he's first to every ball, loads of interceptions once every 15 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 First I've ever heard anyone imply Anita doesn't try tbh, which I'm assuming that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well he has matches where he's everywhere and matches where he's anonymous. The everywhere matches are few and far between. Thought he was one of the better players at Palace actually but he was still dominated and largely second to every ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well he has matches where he's everywhere and matches where he's anonymous. The everywhere matches are few and far between. Thought he was one of the better players at Palace actually but he was still dominated and largely second to every ball. Whereas Colback is always anonymous I think everyone is in agreement that we do badly need 2 central midfielders BUT Anita>Colback every single day of the week for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Colback was better than he usually is but ultimately that doesn't mean an awful lot. Saw him again lose the ball on the edge of our area which fortunately we got away with but on another day could've led to a goal. Anita clearly is a better player basically because he does everything better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Colback gets a booking sometime early in the first half and then he has to play less aggressive for the rest of the match...around the 75 minute mark he begins to look like hes about to pick up a second yellow and repeat. That is costly. f*** off with this "Anita doesn't try" bullshit. That's about as stupid and thick of a thing you could say about him. In fact, both Colback and Anita try their bollocks off for 90 minutes, Colback doesn't have any stand-out qualities and is a below average player. Anita is a better player in my departments over Colback but he's still not an ideal DM or CM in the PL for me, and I like the guy a ton. We need two new central midfielders and we got rid of Abeid who was more than capable of holding down the defensive midfield role for his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Colback has a decent tackle in him now and then - but he makes a fucking idiotic lunge that's unnecessary and gets a booking every other match. Like I said earlier though, Colback can only tackle if he's right on top of the player already. If there's a bit of space he's going to miss the tackle because he's so slow at closing down. It pretty much makes him useless if you want to press the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yeah, his positioning is crap and he has no engine at all. I do think he tries FWIW, he's just a poor player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He does try hence the reason he covers a lot of ground BUT it has no purpose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He always seems involved yet has no influence on the game at all. He's like the carrier bag blowing around the stadium of light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He always seems involved yet has no influence on the game at all. He's like the carrier bag blowing around the stadium of light. perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 At least the carrier bag had a purpose once.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonathan Wilson on Colback, the Premier League's most booked player since Summer 2013: http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mw7gjwhrdkm2lk5ast_rzw/Show/Player-Focus-Jack-Colback-Not-Pirlo-or-Cattermole-but-Somewhere-In-Between Rubbish article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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